Ancient Aliens or Ancient Technology? wavygravy7 posted:8/11/2011 9:18:28 PM I really think that there was several ages in earths past were we had a large population and technology.I'm a big fan of the ancient alien idea but it seems more likely that all the old stone structures were built by us in our ancient past more than 12,000 years ago.I belive that the pyraminds are way older than were are being told.I can't help but think this is the most likely that this is what happened.I do not rule out the possibility that visitors came down to earth in the past,the sumerian text talk about those from the heavens and the mayans seem to have there visitors too.I think we keep getting wiped out by natural disasters,wars,earth changes and so on.There is no telling how many times our race has started over on earth.Forbidden archaeology is one of my favorite subjects!Omen502 posted:8/11/2011 11:24:39 PM I agree with you Monica and hope you didn't think my post was directed at you. There are a lot of stories and events described in the bible and it is quite easy to see in most cases the symbolism and parrable-like meanings. I do believe that the bible wasn't only twisted but butchered. Actually butchered is a nice word I guess I should say rewrote. I do not believe the earth was created in the way described in genesis. I mean it all seems so much like a fairy tale. I try to keep myself out of religous discussions due to the fact that an argument always arises. I do not see god like the bible portrays him to be. I do not think god knows from beginning to end. I no doubt think we were created by a supreme being but I know that if I already knew what was going to happen. . . well what is the point? I can also say that I sympathize with satan and can totally see where he is coming from. I believe there was a more detailed description of the accounts that are described therein. I am not a bible-thumper and often make mistakes of interpretations. I would love to be able to read all the original texts in which this book came to be. When I think about the inquisition and the burning of the bibles I come to the conclusion that when someone wants something eradicated it is usually because they feel threatened. I no doubt feel there is a lot of truth in the bible but it doesn't take but one word to take the truth and turn it into a false doctrine. I have been called "doubting thomas" because I always question everything, but I do not just question for an excuse to complain. Anyway enough of this topic. I feel in my heart after doing so much research that the elites have a very grim plan for us. I am also waiting to see what will happen in the next coming year or so. I have also been looking at jet propulsion laboratories comet elenin's projected orbit. I see that it will be between the sun and earth on september 29th of this year which is rosh hashana and think this could possibly tie in with thier ceremonial rituals and have even seen a video talking about the prophecy in revelations where it speaks of the woman giving birth to the star which is supposed to be satan or something it also says this will happen when she is clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet. It does make sense. It could be the fulfilling of another prophecy, but i am speculating. I also feel like there will be a biological attack on the united states and will be blamed on terrorism from within. The gov will use this to show how our constitution cannot provide the protection neccesary. Leading the "sheeple" to the new world order. I have so many things I have been seeing and I am just connecting the dots. I hope it's not true but my friends I feel we might be in for a wild ride real soon. We need to do more investigating into what these people are doing. These people are dirty. they sacrificed thousands when they brought down the trade center and I have seen how the dates of certain events including 9-11 come together. There language is based on symbols, rituals, and numbers, and if you know there language it is possible to predict what will happen next, hell even the pentagram was originally created from the orbits of venus and earth and the line up points with the sun. If you doubt look at my post my nightmare part one and two. Anyway I think I have overloaded my brain today and cannot express myself properly so I leave you hopeing that everyone will take heed to this situation and look deeper. Try to see through the fire. You know speaking of fire, sacrifices, and rituals I wonder what kind of paranormal phenomenon occurs at the bohemian grove every year. Being that it is held in a redwood forest where some of these trees were probably sapplings when jesus walked the earth. There has to be something special about the energy or frequency of this area that makes it a hotspot for them. why else would they choose it? monica1968 posted:8/13/2011 12:33:44 PM hello omen.....whilst i do nt ascibe to some of the theoires Zecharia Zitcheb came to his basic interptretation of the cunifrom is almost there, and i decided to read all this books just to see where the bible got its information from. amonst others....In my opinion the bible is a hotchpotch of other faiths..jewish included...the bible was designed to keep the masses in fear and easily to control..Enuma Elish and the epric story of creation was also inspiration for the book..Infact i will go as far to say that the bible is the greatest non starter as religous books go..It was created by man for the control of man, when it was created by the richest nation on earth after they could no longer force people into their slavery..The fall of the roman empire was the rise of Catholicism quite possibley THE worst religion. One only has to look into the inquistions just for starters on how these appalling excuses for holy men there ever was and modern times is no better. This monstrous church actually covers for the evil perverted priests who pray on young children and do unspeakable things to them...IN THE NAME OF GOD..Most western religions are a spin off from this diabolical church Henry 8th found some balls and broke away but his bible pretty much remained the same..Although i do not ascribe to any religion i consider myself to be very spiitual and to some extent enlightened, but i am not dead yet and have the rest of my life to seek answers. DISCLAIMER; I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST INDIVIDUALS WHO PRACTICE THIS FAITH, IT IS THE FAITH AND CHURCH I AM DAMNING NOT ANYONE PERSONALLYmonica1968 posted:8/13/2011 12:49:45 PM EDWARD F MALKOWSKI wrote a cracking book, regarding these pyramids 39,000 yrs bc....they have been rebuilt a few times since then, and another, forbidden history by DOUGLAS J KENYON, was one of the first books i read when it dawned on me nothing is as it seems, i followed it up with forbidden sciences the only one i havent done is the religion [and i will get round to it, just that very word get stuck in my throat], there is evidence to suggest that man was here 65,000,000 yrs ago.. along with the dinsaurs, a stone tablet was found depicting a very human looking man espying from a telescope aimed at a dinosaur, which goes against everything we have been taught in schools...In england the was a very good series called the outcasts [available on dvd and blue ray] telling the story of an amount of people fleeing earth when it was blown up...to cut story short the humans thought they were the first to inhabit...on this other planet were whats called clones/hybrids who could reproduce properly, whats more whilst excavating this planet they unearthed other human remains , which can only mean this were not the first human and the bones dated back at least 10,000yrs, i still havent watched the last two episodes although i they are recored so i must see the end before i can comment further, The event, a series made in th US is also touching on this, but it got a bit longwided for me and i lost interest but it rasied some valid points nonetheless...Agreeing here with the two people above, human have been hear many times one way or another, is just a minefield as to where to start here..monica1968 posted:8/13/2011 12:56:19 PM Also just as afterthought Wayne Herschels book HIDDEN RECORDS postulates that all of the pyramids combined shows some sort of star map, very similar to the ones on Mars in the cydonia region, possible pointing the way from the path of our ancient ancestors and our "other" home, but i am not going to stake my life on it...is just another mans theory after all, the author had a rough time trying to get this boook published so i think there may be some facts to it, I think there is much data here on earth that will clear up the whole debate but religion is big business and i dont think for one minute they are going to give up that particular gravytrain..monica1968 posted:8/13/2011 1:01:29 PM There is also evdience that "man" early hybrids and no females were created to mine for gold for a race of berings...these said hybrids were all male, not one female skeleton was found, and these hybrids had no soul, but could function perfectly well, It was from this standpoint that Adam/Adapa was created then finally a female was created, although iincubated in one of our creators, the soul bit came later i have theories about that too but not here...i may start another thread on that one in due course monica1968 posted:8/13/2011 1:39:04 PM /here many times...relating to the 1st article on this thread i wrote...i cannot believe i wrote hear...omgmonica1968 posted:8/13/2011 3:16:17 PM www.dottal.org/evidence_for_a_new_history.htm.....i posted this on another thread but adds to the argument that we have been here longer than the perperted few thousand years that mainstream MIS/education that has been rammed down our throats. Everyone forget what you were ever told...is one massive coverup in the name of supposed religion, Religions were formed to extract money and exact absolute power over the average human...We should sack the entire teaching population of the earth, and replace with properly educated people who have a modicom of intelligence and belief in what they teach.....here endeth the lesson spiritech0 posted:8/14/2011 11:30:55 PM http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/21/popes-astronomer-baptize-aliens/This is the man in the article... Thought it would be interesting....http://vaticanobservatory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85:brother-guy&catid=60:personnel-and-research&Itemid=83 monica1968 posted:8/16/2011 2:40:10 PM just reread the first of my posts on this thread.... i spotted a mistake i said hybrids could mate instead of couldnt......the hybrids then can be liken to mules...sterile....sorry for any confusion arisen..... monica1968 posted:8/16/2011 2:40:42 PM sorry second thread..... monica1968 posted:8/16/2011 2:53:37 PM something wrong with the links here...Spiritech0 i cannot get that link...and is too much for me to write in by hand....could you direct me another way...i just typed in the top part got onto fox but is saying the article has been removed.....gosh what a swizz....any ideas ? maybe another site or something so i can get the gist of it.....CHEERS..wavygravy7 posted:8/16/2011 3:19:18 PM It's possible that an advanced race came down to earth and enslaved us or came here to teach us.I still think it's possible that the pyramids are older than we are told and they were made sometime in the past 12,000 years ago or older.I think that before the flood the earth was populated and we had other forms of technology.I'm very interested in the theory that they could "melt stones" like at Cusco,Peru and other ancient sites.Stone vitrification seems very likely and even the Giza pyramids could have been done that way and would explain alot.The question is did aliens show us these things or did we used to have tech of our own and we got wiped out by earth changes and had to start all over again?spiritech0 posted:8/16/2011 10:00:38 PM Odd... Ms Monica, try using your mouse to highlight the links and Copy/Paste it into another window. If it gives you an error message, let me know. If it works... You're gonna flip.monica1968 posted:8/17/2011 11:49:33 AM spitiech0 i have just learnt today to do that very thing...lol...is only taken me 5 yrs or so to figure......omg..i am getting there so i will read up and report back...cheersmonica1968 posted:8/18/2011 1:40:17 PM Well spiritech0......i read with much interst the articles mentioned......the first part i saw the above mentioned Guy J Consolmagno holding an alien with tentacles.....What an absolute farce...in one breath is open to baptising these careatures [magnanamous of him i am sure eh....is assuming these creatures can be pursuaded to be such].....then he ended with the get -out of jail free card with it being hypothetical...yeah right....Because of course there is no such beings hmmm.......So followed up by reading about him....starting out as a physics master,,,then found god and followed up with studying theology and phyilosophy witth yet more physics.....which is the bit i am trying to get my head around....because they are two extremes in ways of thinking....the one physics scientist i have had dealings with [worked for british aerospace] he was pretty dismissive of the whole church thiing......And i am considering all the recognition he has amassed doing his atronomy and meteor research that not once has he come across anything remotely suggesting there is life out there.....HOW IS THAT ?`Ummm......well is beyond me i am sorry to say.....two mindsets working here.....and its not working very well....... Omen502 posted:8/18/2011 10:22:01 PM IDk, confusing things these are. I often wonder after seeing the show on Derinkuyu underground city and the structures resembling termite hills. Whats even wierder is that they say antpeople helped them burrow underground to survive cataclisym. Also not forgetting that thier is another race of lizard or snake people that the civilization has similar statements and facts written through thier records. I dont know. Every time I think I am there I look up and it's that farther away, I feel. I have to start meditating and focusing consciuosness during dreaming. Monica I agree with most of what you said about history but There is information meant for us, withheld purposely. I really hope it has nothing to do with our salvationmonica1968 posted:8/19/2011 7:22:52 AM Yes in agreement..there is much information but i dont think is a case of witheld i would say its merely placed out of reach from most of the population, and i think for very good reason, most people are not either able to understand it or some of those that perhaps do use knowledge to fund their own greed and purposes....or instance two years ago i was ignorant to say the least to everything aound me...enlghtened to me then meant loving everyone and taking the shit on the chin without a thought.......Whetheri just suddenly realisedd on the 21st october 2008 that there is indeed more....up until this point i refused to get computer thinking they would addle my brain...omg how wrong i was....The very first vision/experience opened my eyes. to thoer realites and possiblities [i always knew there was more to life but never thought about it], Omen you are right the information is there you just have to know where to look and sometimes divine intervention wins too...just open you rmind is what i say to others...chances are 90% of the people who visit here are also such and i also think tha each of us has sometihng to contribute to the pot so to speak TOGETHER WE WILL FIND ANSWERS.... 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