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Not paranormal related but interesting question.


bigbangfloyd   posted:7/13/2012 1:45:13 PM  
I've been reading alot of political conspiracies lately and was curious to know what everyone thinks about new world order and our very own government declaring martial law? Possible? He did pass that NDAA bill. And what about reports and video of the US military building fema camps and such. Just curious to see everyones opinion?
bobprin   posted:7/13/2012 6:41:38 PM  
I would think the people who are doing these things are preparing for something that does not include the general public
Is it the 2012 mayan prophesy or a general cleansing of worthless population using bio-weapons? There seems to be alot of busy a
breeld   posted:7/14/2012 7:22:23 AM  
I have read a lot about this, too. But so far, all I`ve heard is rumors, no proof of anything. Has anyone else seen any proof?
bobprin   posted:7/14/2012 9:08:52 AM  
Reply @breeld: if someone were to be
Causing a "new world" takeover they
Would be careful not to leave any proof.
Such as a criminal would not leave evidence.
The fema camps could easily be explained
As prepatory emergency relocation areas.
spiritech0   posted:7/14/2012 12:43:42 PM  
I found some data for you, BBFloyd. Enjoy some paranormal postulating on a question like: "Are inhuman(e) entities or aliens offering solutions to mankind's problems as a kind of Trojan Horse in order (tee-hee) to get their foot in the door so they can lead us into totalitarian world governance?"

LincolnGenghis   posted:7/14/2012 2:18:59 PM  
Well if everybody had their own guns I do not think a takeover would go so well. LOL
Jaxerback   posted:7/14/2012 9:25:31 PM  

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LincolnGenghis  posted:7/14/2012 2:18:59 PM  
Well if everybody had their own guns I do not think a takeover would go so well. LOL
If I had ever owned a gun,there would be a few less people in the world at the moment!!
This dam poisoning business takes ages!!
gary107   posted:7/14/2012 10:37:21 PM  
the mentalic poisons work fast, the natural poisons take longer but are more painful. There is also the potassium method and that white glue used to mend china wear, that was the favourite of my mother's. Difficult to detect and appears to be a stomach disorder and is not detectable in the blood. There is rumoured to be EMF devices that are used by certain governmental groupings. We live in interesting times.
LincolnGenghis   posted:7/15/2012 3:18:59 AM  
Well basically the thing I find most funny about the government takeover scenario is the fact they they would never be able to do it or even be smart enough to. You would be talking about a group of real greedy people that would stab their own Grandmother in the back with a knife if it ment they could have more money. They would be spending all their time trying to kill each other off to be the top dog. (might try to recruit some of us commoners in their endever but that would be the extent of it.)

LincolnGenghis   posted:7/15/2012 3:47:31 AM  
Its actually kind of like the wizard of OZ. Everyone thinks they are like some Big Brother Omnipresent force that sees and watches everthing everyone on the earth does and knows all. It is so far from the truth its laughable. It is the smallest number of greedy on the take idiots you can imagine. The only people they pay close attention to are the ones that cost them money or cause their charector too much damage (Which costs them money)

You will never see any of them try to dispell the Big Brother conspiracy theories , they actually like it that way with everyone thinking they have their finger on the pulse of everyone and everything. The reallity of the whole thing would cause a major panic with people of the world concerning their governments. The truth of the matter is that in most governments of the world, there really is nobody stearing the Titanic as it wacks Ice bergs. They are all busy down below deck raiding the safe in the pursers office on the figurative ship so to speak. (And lining up their own escape life boats before the ship that they were in charge of sinks.)
LincolnGenghis   posted:7/15/2012 4:06:21 AM  
Basically I am sorry to say that there is no wizard and nobody has truely had the wheel in one to two decades in most of the world governments.
Levinus   posted:7/15/2012 7:36:37 AM  

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LincolnGenghis  posted:7/15/2012 4:06:21 AM  
Basically I am sorry to say that there is no wizard and nobody has truely had the wheel in one to two decades in most of the world governments.
I'm inclined to agree with you. Our government (US), is currently the pinnacle of failure. We are broke, our children are idiots, and our healthcare system is in shambles. Our foreign policy is a joke to other countries, and we feed our cattle better than our people.

There are much more profitable ways to run a country, and our leaders can't figure it out.

As for martial law, they can legislate that, if need be. But can you imagine trying to declare martial law on a national level? A country that has a gun in nearly every household, has a generation of kids trained in paramilitary tactics (xbox, paintball, airsoft), and a general populous that is pissed off.

I wouldn't be surprised if WE declare the martial law first. Give those losers a firm kick out of office and put actual PEOPLE in there.

I've personally wondered....why DO we have a government? We have the technology to allow everyone to vote on national/state/local legislation. Make an iPod app. Make a website. Have voting day on friday. We'd vote for ONE issue at each level and be done with it. We wouldn't need a congress. A president, a handful of festering old judges.

Could it be hacked? Sure. Do you really think the system we have now is foolproof?

Think about it. Every friday, legislation is passed. No arguments, its just...done. No more bribing politicians! Are banks allowed to bribe the people? Sure. But after a few million bribes, they'll be out of cash and we'll vote how we want anyway.
bigbangfloyd   posted:7/15/2012 11:17:13 PM  
Everyone has a lot to say. But we can't ignore certain things that are going on. Like fema camps, our military has been training in homeland warfare, training in rounding up cities and residential areas as Welland setting up checkpoints and such. I saw this first hand when the nationgaurd showed up in day in my aunts neighborhood and set up a road block and swept the streets. The said it was a drill pertaining to natural disasters and such...the only thing is that they were armed to through fucking core with everything u can imagine. Plus with the very real threat of Obama and Congress going after a reformed constriction and our rights. I personally believe there is a lot going on behind the scenes. There is so much more to suggest that same theory. Whether crazy or skeptic, there is def something going on. Ya know?
Jaxerback   posted:7/16/2012 10:37:41 AM  
Are you suggesting that your government is going to invade its own country??
For what??
gary107   posted:7/16/2012 2:38:45 PM  
Do you remember why the French celebrate July 14th?
bigbangfloyd   posted:9/4/2012 11:29:15 PM  
Sorry it took so long to answer back it's been a crazy month. All I'm trying to say is that there is alot of weird things going on today. There are so many different conspiracy theories but when u start witnessing such scenarios it's hard to doubt. Military training in suburban settings with a complete arsenal of weapons and gas masks? The signing of the president's reformed NDAA bill which clearly states in a natural disaster or time if high emergency the military has full power over all local law and government. (Martial Law) and also states that anyone expected of terrorism within the united states can be detained indefinitely without trial. The FEMA camps are rumored to be used for refuge, yet they are building them near railroad tracks and covering them with 11 foot barbed wire fences like prisons. There is just so much going on it would take forever to write everything. But even stupid things like the recent "zombie attacks" ? They are appearing out of nowhere, all brutally violent. Supposedly caused by "bath salts" however bath salts have been used as a drug for many years, and now all of a sudden they are causing people to eat faces and throw intestines at police officers? Come on now Lol. Chem trails? Obama trying to reform the constitution and our second amendment by going international on gun control with united nations. Just me being crazy but it all seems kinda funky to me. I work in law enforcement. I passed numerous psychological test I swear haha.
bigbangfloyd   posted:9/4/2012 11:46:48 PM  

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Jaxerback  posted:7/16/2012 10:37:41 AM  
Are you suggesting that your government is going to invade its own country??
For what??
The whole theory of NWO is pretty much a global take over from all world powers who are working beside each other. Hypothetical of course but What if the government was to create another 911 like scenario or a natural disaster.? Then by declaring martial law they would gain control, ban firearms and other rights in regards to our safety? The economy would collapse again and there would be need for reformation. Basically a new set of laws and government. They could minupulate us into believing it was right....there is just so much to explain Lol. Basically it comes down to oil. Control the world's oil supply control the world. With that kind of money and power things would really get fucked. Sorry I can't be more specific it's all jumbled in my head.
Jaxerback   posted:9/5/2012 4:11:17 PM  
This is all wild speculation and not without a trace of hysteria.
Personally speaking I would welcome a global ban on firearms.They do not make you safer.
They make it easier for lunatics and criminals to kill and maim decent citizens.
All that is just wishful thinking.
LincolnGenghis   posted:9/8/2012 4:23:14 AM  
Ahh I looked into this whole FEMA camp conspiracy thing and its BS. What people are thinking they are seeing is real but not in the way you think. Its a huge money thing. Corperations are trying to get into running private prisons because there is a shitload of money they can drain from the government taking care of inmates. The other thing they are building down by the border are immigration detainment camps . again to make money off the government. Why do you think there are so many big money players getting so bent out of shape about the immigration issue right now? Because they already started building all the facilities with the backing of investors by promissing them they would get the government contracts for shit loads of money. If you do not believe me look up stories on the privitization of the prison system and immigration and you will find what you need to understand the whole thing.

The reason nobody is really correcting this FEMA conspiracy thing is because they don't want people to focus on the real truth. There has been too much money that has changed hands, political bribes and lobying in dark cornes.
breeld   posted:9/8/2012 6:52:21 AM  
Thanks for that "splainin", Lucy, err, Lincoln. Makes a lotta sense.

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