Is consciousness the creator of time? kantel posted:4/30/2010 7:24:09 PM I wish I could remember the exact moment I came into consciousness as a child. I think my earliest memory was at 3 yrs, but I am not sure. Where was my mind untill then. Was it like waking up, or what. I don't remember. What process flips the switch to turn us on? And at the end of some lives, the switch is turned off and we are as newborns again for the last few years. unaware of time.Severen posted:5/2/2010 8:24:17 PM I don't think it has to do with awareness of time. At a certain point in childhood you seperate yourself from everything else. Before that point there are no boundaries between the rest of the world and yourself. You don't recognize people as being seperate from yourself. You are only aware of your own perceptions. Some people can remember things from early childhood, but the memories have more to do with sensations (smells, tastes, touch, etc.). What most people perceive as time is quite different than physical time. We have created a system that is a means to an end. It serves a certain purpose. Physical time is seperate from what we perceive as time. Check out time dilation (described in the theory of relativity). Time can be perceived differently based on velocity (in relation to the speed of light) and the gravitational pull of larger bodies. So actual time and our perception of time can be a little skewed. So time does in fact exist outside of our perception of it.avil_graves posted:5/7/2010 8:39:26 AM All we have as humans is the ability to create. Now obviously that statement can be argued, but why bother destroy the truly positive notions of our human existance. The "switch flipping" effect (good choice of words) happens chemicaly in our brains at the moment of birth and the moment of death. I'm not sure if it's a responsive reaction from the mothers birthing process itself, but as a small child in the birth canal your brain is flooded with this chemical happen-stance. I remember as a very young child, a reacurring dream. Where having never been to a wedding before; couldn't have possibly known what one was...? Yet here I was from a birds eye view dropping down on to a white snow or rice fallen scene where I then sored down an outside walk heading away from a white building, with people all all around dressed in white. I looped around to view an 8 team all white horse drawn carrige, starting at there feet and slanting upward and panning out till I saw what could only be figured as myself @ age 25. (I mean even as a kid that number spoke to me in this dream. Creepy...not so much, lol) Of course I wasn't alone my all dressed in white bride was stting next to me in the carrige, but the mistery of the vail was so thick her face was hidden from time...That moment in time is still so prevelent today in my mind I feel that as strongly today as I will when I take my first pure moment to my grave...Time as a unit of messure is a great way to give a bit of grasping to your daily life hussle and bussle. It's a great schedual keeper. Yet time as we feel it has spherical influence, It is constanly moving inwards and outwards as opose to linear. We as individuals should have a comfortable control of our perception of time, yet the universe is chaotic and so it takes great work to achieve balance and understand anything. deebzguitar posted:5/7/2010 3:01:54 PM Graves is reffering to the Chemical DMT, I may be mistaken. It is given to you in an huge intense dose upon birth the moment your eyes first meet with the outside light of the world. The chemical is like a super intense 3 sec feeling of euphoria. I believe this euphoric state we have all encountered is what sort of skews our perceptions especially when we are newborns. After the first huge dose upon birth, your body gets a little bit of it every time you wake up from sleeping. I have encountered it a lot when I wake up, I really have no idea what time it is, alot of the times the first thing I do when I awake is check what time it is. The chemical skewers my perception upon awakening like it does for a lot of humans. The effect from birth is only recreated one other time in your life, and its at the last moment you lay eyes on the light, your moment of death.macros72 posted:5/7/2010 4:42:02 PM hi guys, dunno if this will be of interest but here goes.i have two memories of very early age.Sat in a pushchair feeling groggy and overwhelmed by the light and sound around me. It was a trip to the coast that i only recall glimpses of. I felt sooo tired by trying to take all this scenery in. Spent most of this day sleeping.I then have a deep memory of being held by my mother on a bus. We where sat near the back and my mother was chatting to other people. I called out for some reasonand she told me to be quiet which peed me off - the others around laughed and this upset me - i cried and then felt embarassed, then fell back to sleep. deebzguitar posted:5/8/2010 9:23:08 AM How old would you say you were in the 2nd memory you recalled macros72? That sounds like a intensley early memory...almost infintile.Severen posted:5/8/2010 7:15:48 PM I can remember a lot of stuff when I was 3 years old pretty vividly. The farthest back I can go is when I was 2 and still lived at my uncle's house. My mom would send in for stuff off the cereal boxes. I got my first lego set this way. It was a little white race car that she helped me put together. It also came with a lego guy (in an a helmet and everything). I remember being pretty stoked about it. I was running around in the living room racing it off the walls and the front picture window sill. That is about the earliest memory that I can associate with an age. spiritech0 posted:5/11/2010 2:30:26 PM If a scientist can track the development of a human foetus, time is being tracked then. But speculating on whether a child can remember the need to feed, or the best special reaction to stimuli , ie "baby's first word", or designating what a person can remember as their first memory as the actual time of consciousness as opposed to self-realization..? Weird.Because we are dealing with a question at this time, if I am knocked unconscious - do I cease to exist on all levels?I propose we have always been conscious... we just forget.avil_graves posted:5/12/2010 8:59:16 AM a well placed theory...lucid dreamer posted:5/13/2010 11:17:22 PM I once had a vivid experience in a lucid dream of being in the universe but aware of the family of light. Seeing as it were my body as an astral veihicle but everyone else as an orb of light. Everyone was watching as a huge Orb of light splintered into individual sparks of light. It made me wonder that the orbs of light were other beings of consciousness watching the beginning of our experience, Chriswin2010 posted:5/15/2010 9:03:13 PM I think time has a lot to do with how atoms work, if they were completely still and motionless, time would not exist, but since they are constantly jumping around it creates a "ticking" of time. The time that we measure is over simplified. Without this ticking of time and motion of atoms, conciousness would not be possible, if conciousness did exist in a completely motionless universe that would suck very badly. I also think motion is a byproduct of time completely seperate of time it is just a bunch of different atoms piling up until motion occurs, but the big bang had a lot to do with how over excited atoms are, so the big bang created highly excited atoms and thus time and conciousness which I also think is a byproduct of time.Severen posted:5/16/2010 10:31:35 PM In Reply To:Chriswin2010 posted:5/15/2010 9:03:13 PM I think time has a lot to do with how atoms work, if they were completely still and motionless, time would not exist, but since they are constantly jumping around it creates a "ticking" of time. The time that we measure is over simplified. Without this ticking of time and motion of atoms, conciousness would not be possible, if conciousness did exist in a completely motionless universe that would suck very badly. I also think motion is a byproduct of time completely seperate of time it is just a bunch of different atoms piling up until motion occurs, but the big bang had a lot to do with how over excited atoms are, so the big bang created highly excited atoms and thus time and conciousness which I also think is a byproduct of time.Wow. Chriswin2010 posted:5/16/2010 11:37:58 PM lol, I think about things like that all the time... Los_Tobos posted:5/19/2010 12:08:05 AM Consciousness is the creator of limitations. Time exists outside of consciousness, but with consciousness we give it limitations.kantel posted:5/19/2010 3:24:46 PM In Reply To:Los_Tobos posted:5/19/2010 12:08:05 AM Consciousness is the creator of limitations. Time exists outside of consciousness, but with consciousness we give it limitations.The opposite of what we think is time, exists out side of consciousness. It is non-time, or not time, inactive, dead, frozen, unchanging. A demension where everything that will happen, has happened and connot be undone. The consciuosness that we possess is on the other side of that demension, constantly riding the event horizon between the two. It is this process that affords the illusion of time. Everything exists everywhere at the same time, but consciousness allows us to be the observers of the one and only, constant now, that is limited in one, but eternal through the multitude. coombebryan posted:5/20/2010 6:17:19 AM My earliest memory is of being in a cot with a book propped up inside and looking at the pictures, the book was about a TV show called Pinky & Perky (two pink pigs!) - my mom tells me that this could only have been when I was under a year old as I was moved to a regular bed at that point. I can also remember being in a pram outside a supermarket with my brother holding the handles and laughing at me - again under one year old as I was no longer in a pram after that age. I also have a vivid memory of my brothers and I being inside a haystack having built a den, my older brother thought it dark and decided to light a candle - all I remember is being pulled out and the straw scratching my legs then the fire brigade arrived and the whole barn went up - I was three at the time.mArAyA posted:6/1/2010 3:44:37 PM I think their are two types of times in this univrse.that are our 'conscious time' and 'mechanic time'.their is a beat for mechanic time that we have created.(that mean we have consented that beat.).but in our conscious,there is another time.when our feelings speed is faster(that mean we are in so many feelings) we feel time is going very slowly.but when our feelings speed is slow(that mean we have some bit of feelings) we feel time flies.so we can consider time.but we can tell neither conciousness or physical things(pysical things in this universe)have created 'time'.it has created by the power of universe.because these two has created this universe. 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