jchristopher5's Wall User Forums User News Links Comments: 21 Total Stars: 12 Messages Please log in or become a member to add a post. Websites No websites added. Recent Public Comments Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:8/8/2011 4:37:12 PMCan't we just all get along?Listen, I have posted what I consider to be solid evidence, even proof of my contention that we are being presently visited by aliens. I am of sound mind and body, and I 100% believe this to be true, based on the volumes of information that I have read, watched, and debated.You are free to believe whatevery you want Ware. If you don't believe, I could care less. But, I think you are ignoring the truth, or probably refusing to learn about it because, in the words of Jack Nicholson's famous character, "you can't handle the truth."Everyone should believe what they want, after hopefully studying the evidence with an open mind. Forum: Rendle"sham" Forest NewsPosted:8/8/2011 2:37:29 PMInteresting story this weekend, about the event known as the "British Roswell." In late 1980, right around Chrismas, several "on the record" officers and enlisted personnel claimed to witness some very strange lights, over the period of a couple of nights. The incident is also called the "Rendlesham Forest Incident." It is one of the strangest and most well-documented cases in history, and the fact that it happened on a military base makes it even more compelling. Here is a quick rundown, with a link and some key text from "how stuff works.com."[url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/rendlesham-forest-incident.htm[/url]Just after midnight on December 26, eyewitnesses and radar screens followed an unidentified object as it vanished into the forest. Soldiers dispatched to the site encountered a luminous triangular-shaped craft, ten feet across and eight feet high, with three legs. The UFO then retracted the legs and easily maneuvered its way through the trees. The soldiers chased it into a field, where it abruptly shot upward, shining brilliant lights down on them. At that moment the witnesses lost consciousness. When they came to, they were back in the forest. Other troops sent to rescue them found tripod landing marks where the object apparently had rested.The following evening, after observers reported strange lights, the deputy base commander, Lt. Col. Charles Halt, led a larger party into Rendlesham. There, Halt measured abnormal amounts of radiation at the original landing site. Another, smaller group, off on a separate trek through the forest, spotted a dancing red light inside an eerily pulsating "fog." They alerted Halt's group, who suddenly saw the light heading toward them, spewing forth a rainbow waterfall of colors. Meanwhile, the second group now watched a glowing domed object in which they could see the shadows of figures moving about.During the next hour both groups observed these and other darting lights.Cable News Network learned that films and photographs were taken of these events, despite official denials. According to curiously persistent rumors, never verified but never conclusively disproved, occupants were encountered at some point during the event.When a constituent told him about the incident, U.S. Sen. James Exon launched an extensive but secret inquiry. He has never revealed his findings, even to staff members. He says only that he learned "additional information" that ties the Rendlesham case to "other unexplained UFO incidents." Now, more than 30 years later, after not commenting for three decades, the lead investigator, Col. Conrad is saying that the event never happened. It was either a hoax, or the product of wild imaginations. Here is the link to this recent story.[url]http://www.itn.co.uk/home/25915/US Colonel discounts 'Britain's Roswell'[/url]Conrad chastised Lt. Col. Halt, who wrote a top secret memorandum about the incident, which has been recently uncovered via the FOIA. Conrad said that he (Halt) should know that government and military would never conspire to lie about something (ha). Here is copy of that memo describing that evenings events:[url]http://rendlesham-incident.co.uk/evidence/official-documents/the-halt-memorandum-1983/[/url]Halt later, in 2010, wrote a sworn avadit about the events of that evening. Several other officers and enlisted personal have also collaberated his story. When the event happened, Halt and his team took molds of landing marks, where the triangular craft aledgedly came to rest in the forest. Yet, in spite of all of this expert testimony the US investigator, 30 years later, says it was a hoax, a lie, or a misunderstanding. Check into this, if you are of the mind to investigate a little. If you believe the story of Officer Halt, and the other men, then you are part of a "conspiracy theory", which has just now come to light since "nothing happened" on those evenings apparently. If you believe the government/military investigator, then you are in the corner with most of the world who thinks that the governement is not hiding anything from us. I believe the men, who had every reason to forget what the witnessed, yet had the courage to speak out, or write a top-secret memo about the incident. It is a shame, in my opinion, that most will buy this crap and believe every word that Conrad, and those like have have to say. 30 years after the fact.Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:8/1/2011 7:49:08 AMIt is August 27th. It appears the debris/evidence may not be from Roswell, but I am not 100 percent clear. I also don't have any personal insight as to how significant, or not, this evidence might be. But, they have my attention and I am anxious to see what is presented. http://www.ufomidwest.com/Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:8/1/2011 7:12:09 AMSkeptic,I am glad you took the time to check out this information. The media has grown tired, or whatever, of reporting information about this incident. Many bought the last two government reports (Project Mogel & Crash Dummies) and just have not looked at the entire picture. The cover-up is so obvious. Guys like Stanton Friedman have made a lifetime out of investigating this crash that has now been 64 years removed. As I mentioned, there is supposed to be additional debris evidence disclosed at the ucoming Midwest UFO conference in Kansas City. I am anxious to see what that is about. Stay tuned for more details, although it is unlikley that you will find it reported on CNN, MSNBC or FoxNews.Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 3:51:03 PMMonica, for some reason my reply doesn't work, so I am typing a new message. I post on "conventional" news boards too, and spend a lot of time defending my views. I rather enjoy the debate.I agree though. If you take the time to look at the evidence, it is almost impossible (IMO) to not believe. But, I am 49 and have been a believer for less than a year and a half. I "got the bug" a while back and can't put this away. It is so interesting to me. Take care!Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 3:25:16 PMSkeptic...I wish you well in your quest. Please try to keep an open mind, balanced with a skeptical approach. Please also apologize to Monica for your comments in the initial post. I came off sort off as abrasive and mean spirited. Monica is a legend on this board, and who are we to say what other people have experienced? You don't have to believe, but it is not right to berate others who are relating their experiences. I have never been abducted (that I know of consciously), but I do believe that many people have.Thanks and I wish you the best. Look forward to seeing your comments back on the links provided.Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 1:34:24 PMSkeptic...read what Marcell said/wrote. It could be bend like tinfoil from a candy wrapper, yet would return to its shape. Further, you could dent bang it with a hammer, and yes it would bend, but it would return to its original shape. So, yes it would dent, but the dents would not stay.Being that the government took control of the massive debris field for Roswell, and combed the area for months collecting the debris, what sort of proof of this metal do you expect to find? Well, you may be in luck.http://www.openminds.tv/test-confirms-roswell-debris-733/It is also reported that there will be some major news on some debris, found at the crash site, during the MUFO conference in KC in late August. I understand that you want to touch an alien or something, and i can't give you that proof. I do believe the words of people like Edgar Mitchell. In fact, he is one of my real heros.Read this article by Dr. Stanton Friedman, whom most consider the preeminent "UFOlogist" today. See if this helps bring you around. This guy is not a kook, and is one of the most respected UFO researchers around. He is the one who broke the Roswell case in the late 1970s.http://www.openminds.tv/expert-challenges-review/ Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 11:33:45 AMSkeptic,Read this webpage. It shouldnt take too long and it will catch you up on the major points. Yes, there are skeptical sites as well. IMO, the best proof is in reading or watching the eye-witness testimonies, as I mentioned earler.The Ramey memo is covered here, and you will see that the General was holding this piece of paper when the famous debris picture was taken. Marcell told about a memory metal that was light and pliable like aluminum foil, yet couldn't be cut, burned or dented with a 20 lb hammer. Jessie Marcell testified that the wreckage was swapped with conventional weather balloons for this picture. The memo may be the smoking gun, but I will let you decide.http://www.roswellproof.com/Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 10:56:06 AMSkeptic,There are tons of evidence that the government has been involved in a huge cover-up. Look at the timeline for Roswell. The government announces that it has captured a flying disk (before it was cleared with Washington) and the next day said it was a weather balloon. The most elite military group in the world mistook a flying disk for a balloon? Does that sound logical?Then, after all the Roswell debate, the goverment is compelled to write hundreds of pages, in two major reports in the 1990s. The last one "case closed" said that the reports of aliens were likely test dummies, that people mistook for aliens? Really? The reports were of small child like humanoids with large heads, approximately 4' tall. The test dummies used were full man size, 6' tall. The clincher is that this program didn't start until 1953, when the Roswell crash happened in 1947.I will write some more later, but check into these facts. Please read the testimony of William Haut, the base communications officer. And from Jessie Marcell, the base intelligence officer. You don't need to read 10,000 books to begin to see that something is being kept from us. I will try to write more later. My wife is after me for some "honey dos". Forum: Aliens... really?Posted:7/31/2011 8:29:37 AMSkeptic47,You seem sort of out of place here, sort of like a heathen at a church revival. But, no matter. Glad to talk aliens with you.My suggestion is that you break this down, and cover the basics before we get into aliens. There are literally tens of thousands of reliable accounts, often from astronauts, pilots, and high-ranking military officials, about sightings of objects that defy current technology and understanding. Incredibally large objects, which can hover silently, and move at speeds that are impossible for modern aircraft, which defy our understand of physics. Read Leslie Kean's "Pilots, Generals,....." It could be real eye-opener for you, it was for me. It is coming out now in paperback.Now, once you are firmly convincened that something is in our skies that defies human description, you ask yourself, what is it? Once you go through the possibilities, extra-terrestrial visitation, or extra-dimensional visitation become strong probabilities. We call it the extra-terrestrial hypothesis. You say there is no evidence of this, which unless you are blinded, can't read, or can't understand language, is just not true. My suspicion is that you already had your mind made up and therefore don't "see" the evidence, or just haven't looked. 1. Read the scores of testimonials from Roswell. William Haut, Jessie Marcel, Glenn Dennis, and so many others.2. Read what astronauts Gordon Cooper (who witnessed UFOs) and Dr. Edgar Mitchell have to say about the subject.3. Read the accounts of other famous and well-documented cases. Read about the Ryndlesham Forest incident in 1980. Kecksberg, and so many other famous cases.4. Read the public information that has now become available from GB, NZ, and even the FBI "vault" site. 5. Visit sites like the "Disclosure Project", where liternally hundreds of former military and goverment officials, with knowledge are speaking out about the subject, and demanding that the goverment disclose what it knows. 6. Read the Barney and Betty Hill story, and then you can begin to appreciate what Monica and others are saying. How do you explain implacts? Scars that appear overnight? Study the Walton case. It is fancinating.7. Observe some of the photos and videos that have been recorded. Go back to the Trent photogragh in the 1950s, and work your way forward. Yes, some photos and videos have been faked, no way to avoid that. But, so many have been validated by experts. 8. Realize that UFOs have been reported for thousands of years. Ezekiel. Alexander the Great. Columbus. The list goes on and on.9. Finally, why not? Humans are less than a million years old. The universe is some 14.5 billion years old. The earth only 4.5 billion. Why in the vastness of space, with trillions upon trillions of stars, is it so hard to believe that civilizations could not have advanced so far as to travel through space? Speed of light limitations? Einstein himself granted that time/space could possibly by "bent' and left the possiblity of wormholes in his equations. I don't know HOW they are geting here, yet I know in my heart they are.It is okay to be a skeptic, but read the real evidence and decide for yourself. I feel like the evidence, contrary to what you said, is overwhelming.