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itscrazytime   posted:8/27/2011 6:53:58 PM  (Reply)
 I read this story today, and the following is an excerpt. I would like to get some thoughts and input. From a story located here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/26/ufos-pilots-history-channel_n_935847.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl10|sec3_lnk2|89896 "during a highly publicized 1986 case where a Japan Airlines 747 crew was flying over Alaska when they encountered and reported two UFOs pacing their airplane to Anchorage air traffic controllers. Then the pilot reported the appearance of a third, huge circular craft."When the controller checked with military people, they said they did have a target [on radar] -- not just one target, but a double primary target," said John Callahan, former head of the Federal Aviation Administration's Accidents, Evaluations and Investigations Division in the 1980s."When the pilot first reported the UFO, he said it was a huge ball of light and about four times bigger than the 747 he was flying," Callahan told The Huffington Post.The more than 30-minute close encounter ended when the UFO vanished. But the most telling part of this case is the aftermath when Callahan was contacted by the CIA."I get a call from this guy in the CIA who tells me he wants to talk to me about the UFO. I said, 'What UFO?' He said, 'The one that was in Alaska.'"The next day, Callahan found himself at a meeting with individuals from Pres. Ronald Reagan's scientific staff, the CIA and FBI, where he was told to hand all the materials about the case over to them."After I showed them the materials three times, one of the scientists stood up asking questions about the radar. Finally, another man stepped forward and said, 'OK,' and he pointed to the screen and said, 'This event never happened. We were never here. We're confiscating all this data and you're all sworn to secrecy.'"I asked him what he thought it [the object] was, and he said, 'It's a UFO. Look at them [pointing to the scientists], they're drooling and can't wait to get into this data. This is the first time they ever had more than a minute of radar data on a UFO before.'"Callahan says he then urged the CIA agent to let him contact the media about the UFO event. "'Oh, you can't do that!' he said. I asked why not? He said, 'It would frighten the American public -- they can't know about this.' So they picked up all the stuff and left," Callahan recalled." What could be so horrible that would frighten the American public? Just the fact that "they" exist? Or because "they" are visiting? Or maybe is there something more...You would think at this time the American public could handle the simple fact that this is going on. I am not a U.F.O. expert, or even close to it for that matter, but I don't even know what they are. Aliens, visitors from another dimention, our true ancestors, our zoo keepers, maybe even our own government. "They" could be just about anything. But...I just have a hard time believing that the governmant would take the time and energy to cover up the fact that we are simply being visited.  
Omen502   posted:8/29/2011 4:13:59 AM  (Reply)
     crazytime,  I agree with you and am not exactly sure what these ufos or beings truly are.  I could speculate all day but that would do no good as I do not have all the information.  I do ,  however,  feel there is more to this and have stumbled across a radio interview with a man by the name of John Moore.  I know how the general public would act,  they would get crazy,  but if this is possibly the end of life as we know it,  I think they should not be hiding this information.  I have started to dig more into the environmental problems that have been going on and the vast amount of music and movies concealing hidden messages.  All of which is easy to prove by environmental factors occuring on and within this Earth we live.  I am leaning towards believing that the reason for harrp might not be only the "conspiracy theory viewpoint"  I have so often spoke about.  I am thinking that the dissapearance of the gulfstream which has led to more sizeable and frequent weather "phenomenon" including the earthquakes, tsunmais, and hurricanes.  These things are spoke about in the bible and also in every ancient civilizations culture.  There is something coming guys and it is big.  It is changing our earth as it did seemingly many times in the past.  This is why I believe they are covering up this information.  I am starting to think that Harrp is a tool to try to recorrect the weather and "drag out" the inevitable without our noticing the differences going on around us.  Just this one event of the gulfstreams disapearance has been speculated to cause problems in so many areas eventually leading up to a mini-ice age.  This also coincides with the "ancients" historical records.  If this is true and this is what is happening we all need to be aware and plan for this.  I strongly suggest you listening to the radio interview and i will leave the link at the bottom,  as it will save me a lot of typing and you can also hear from someone who has done the amount of research that is required when dealing with information of this gratitutde. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YagkV7n15TY
jaguarsky   posted:8/30/2011 11:31:52 AM  (Reply)
Since the "feds" took all of the evidence all we have is a personal story and some second hand information to go by, assuming it is true. I do think people tend to embellish such stories a bit, whether conciously or not, so we have to be very careful what we decide to take away from the tale.As for why the gov. feels the need to keep such things secret...well first and formost the government would lose all credibility and their illusion of control would be blown out of the water. Most religious beliefs would have to be re-thought, and many belief systems would probably collapse. (Well, except for those redneck fundis that would believe that aliens are demons and have to be destroyed).Then you have all the financial considerations. Firstly, going back to religion, if folks realized that their religious leaders had been lying to them for a couple of millenia, they would probably stop giving them money. I am guessing there would be a lot of very disgruntled and newly poor religious authorities. So I don't think they would want it to be widely known that other civilizations exist ourside their small minded world view. And obviously if the they, the aliens, can manage interstellar travel they must have a grasp on some pretty neat-o energy technology. That would drop energy stock value right into the toilet, and since the energy companies are a large part of the military industrial complex which runs our world, I am pretty sure that our corporate overlords would not want that to happen. Very bad for their bottom line, don't cha know.Also, as Reagan alluded to, if we were faced with the certainty that we are not alone in the cosmos, our borders, nationalism and petty wars would no longer be relevant in the new reality. That is also bad for the bottom line. So, my friend, you see, like everything here on earth, it all comes down to money and power, and those who will do whatever it takes to keep theirs.
spiritech0   posted:8/30/2011 12:17:35 PM  (Reply)
And yet money itself comes from debt, meaning nothing, and power depends on how it's learned, from the masters or the slaves... And so, since the ruling class and/or the aliens have better tech than our junk... does it matter? Or do you "mind"? I mind about this much: I think it's funny when someone says "Do not abuse government property." That's hilarious.*Those of us who're aware of what's beyond the illusions (amusements, top secrecy, etc) are not few, and we know the sky was never a limit. Despite that, I'll use pop-culture to make the point. Do like Indiana Jones: drop the curricula and grab a shovel. ;)
godlypunk   posted:8/30/2011 12:58:31 PM  (Reply)
I think the idea that the government is afraid of "panic" is crap. I believe there is more there to do with back engineering and control of technology until they reach a certain point. If we are all aware of the 'curtain' then we will seek to look behind it. So, hide the fact that the curtain exists.
itscrazytime   posted:8/31/2011 8:58:29 PM  (Reply)

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Omen502  posted:8/29/2011 4:13:59 AM  (Reply)
     crazytime,  I agree with you and am not exactly sure what these ufos or beings truly are.  I could speculate all day but that would do no good as I do not have all the information.  I do ,  however,  feel there is more to this and have stumbled across a radio interview with a man by the name of John Moore.  I know how the general public would act,  they would get crazy,  but if this is possibly the end of life as we know it,  I think they should not be hiding this information.  I have started to dig more into the environmental problems that have been going on and the vast amount of music and movies concealing hidden messages.  All of which is easy to prove by environmental factors occuring on and within this Earth we live.  I am leaning towards believing that the reason for harrp might not be only the "conspiracy theory viewpoint"  I have so often spoke about.  I am thinking that the dissapearance of the gulfstream which has led to more sizeable and frequent weather "phenomenon" including the earthquakes, tsunmais, and hurricanes.  These things are spoke about in the bible and also in every ancient civilizations culture.  There is something coming guys and it is big.  It is changing our earth as it did seemingly many times in the past.  This is why I believe they are covering up this information.  I am starting to think that Harrp is a tool to try to recorrect the weather and "drag out" the inevitable without our noticing the differences going on around us.  Just this one event of the gulfstreams disapearance has been speculated to cause problems in so many areas eventually leading up to a mini-ice age.  This also coincides with the "ancients" historical records.  If this is true and this is what is happening we all need to be aware and plan for this.  I strongly suggest you listening to the radio interview and i will leave the link at the bottom,  as it will save me a lot of typing and you can also hear from someone who has done the amount of research that is required when dealing with information of this gratitutde. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YagkV7n15TY
 O.k., I do kow a little about the gulf stream. The gulf stream does have "cycles", just as weather patterns do. NASA does not deny that these issues exist, they actually have concluded that these things can and have happened rather quickly, even in as little as 20 years. There is the "Little Ice Age" of the 1800's, etc. I personally wouldn't say that the gulf stream has disappeared per se...but that it has changed, which would not surprise me given Earth's known history. I have no doubt that something big is coming because it has many times in the past. I don't know how anyone would prepare for something so catastrophic. (I DO, however, live in a "safe" area on "the map"), I guess the question is whether panic now would be more constructive and organized than panic later.And what about this presence? Are  they trying to warn us and the government doesn't want them to? Or does the government not know what they want? They could even simply be observing us because they can. Scientists that are trying to learn. From what I've seen, scientists and government officials seem to think that we're smarter...but I just don't see how. The human brain has been the same for quite some time. Doing a little digging on ancient alien's, it's easy to find evidence of man's ingenuity and intelligence, maybe alot of this was lost over time. Who knows...Some things to check out:The safe zone map - http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo41/allwend/2002FMNAa.jpgThe Georgia Guidestones - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_GuidestonesThe year without summer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_SummerThe Little Ice Age - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Agehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation  <---Pay  special attention to the section "Next Glacial Period" 


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