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Phantomhive   posted:7/27/2010 8:28:20 PM  (Reply)
Sorry if I put this under the wrong category but here I go: It was about 1 am and I was coming back on a sunday after spending the weekend in a friend's dorm who goes to OU.  After three days of hanging out with her I was finally driving home.  There's a pretty dark, wooded area I have to drive through to get back home.  All of a sudden it looked like a car had pulled out in front of me so I just followed behind it at about two semi's lengths.  I followed what I assumed to be tail lights for about a mile before we hit a hill where it looks like people just drop off the face of the earth until you're right on top of them again, so that's what I thought had happened until I saw the two red lights jump up into the treeline.  It really could've just been a truck or another car but I really couldn't hear anything because I was listening to the radio pretty loudly to keep myself awake.  But once this thing jumped my radio got static-y.  I really don't know, this whole experience could've been just me being extrememly exhausted ( I slept on the floor and ate all my meals out of vending machines and I think I really only got about 10 hours of sleep that entire weekend) , then the area I was approaching (horrible radio reception), and then a predisposition to look at every strange occurance as a paranormal one first. All I know about this is now I'm afraid to drive on that stretch of road even in the daytime, it feels weird.  What do you guys think? 
skywatcher330   posted:7/28/2010 10:51:55 AM  (Reply)
where did this happen exactly? state, town, road#..
tapuout4985   posted:7/28/2010 1:04:39 PM  (Reply)
Most commonly the red lights associated with the Mothman are said to be eyeshine which you normally wouldn't see if it was flying in front of you (I doubt even the Mothman spends much time flying backward).  However, that does not mean it wasn't paranormal in nature.  There are several things it could have been from alien craft to will-o'-the-wips (both the supernatural ghostly versions and the burning swamp gas version).  I would suggestion doing some research into local lore.  See if there is any history of similar sightings, see if there are any swamps or marshes nearby, check for UFO sightings, and also check to see if there have been any disasters in the area seems that is the usual modus operandi of the Mothman. 
Phantomhive   posted:7/28/2010 9:03:38 PM  (Reply)

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skywatcher330  posted:7/28/2010 10:51:55 AM  (Reply)
where did this happen exactly? state, town, road#..
Route 33 East in Ohio
Phantomhive   posted:7/28/2010 9:06:00 PM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:7/28/2010 1:04:39 PM  (Reply)
Most commonly the red lights associated with the Mothman are said to be eyeshine which you normally wouldn't see if it was flying in front of you (I doubt even the Mothman spends much time flying backward).  However, that does not mean it wasn't paranormal in nature.  There are several things it could have been from alien craft to will-o'-the-wips (both the supernatural ghostly versions and the burning swamp gas version).  I would suggestion doing some research into local lore.  See if there is any history of similar sightings, see if there are any swamps or marshes nearby, check for UFO sightings, and also check to see if there have been any disasters in the area seems that is the usual modus operandi of the Mothman. 
Yeah that's what I was thinking "Why is it going backwards?" O.O It's really hard trying to find stuff out around where it happened since it's pretty much just road but I've been asking around to pretty much anybody else I know who drives that route~ Thanks for the help! :D 
skywatcher330   posted:7/29/2010 12:49:52 PM  (Reply)
Sounds more ufo than mothman. of all the accounts of mothman when seen from a vehicle there was no issues with static over the radio; this is more of the MO for ufo activity - static, car stalling, etc. Good luck :)
godlypunk   posted:8/4/2010 2:25:39 PM  (Reply)
Were you going north on 33 toward Lancaster or heading the other direction? I grew up outside Logan and there is ALOT of paranormal activity out in that area. Interference with phones etc. was reported with the mothman. Seemed like interdimensional magnetic interference. But then it's hard to say.
f1refly   posted:8/9/2010 9:44:23 PM  (Reply)
 natural atmospheric conditions have been known to trigger the same brain reactions that LSD produces, usually lasting no longer than 30 seconds. though no one knows the exact ingredients to create such, i believe its different for variious, sensitive individuals. Much like how some optical illusions effect some more than others. Magnetic fields, barometer, pressure, humidity..etc all play on our brains. We can see its effects to some degrees, high humid conditions and your very hot, i'm sure some of you have had blurred vision, maybe even some slight hallucinations just from the heat and humidity alone.....i know have being a roofer. Can change your thought patterns too, emotions even.
godlypunk   posted:8/11/2010 2:56:43 PM  (Reply)

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f1refly  posted:8/9/2010 9:44:23 PM  (Reply)
 natural atmospheric conditions have been known to trigger the same brain reactions that LSD produces, usually lasting no longer than 30 seconds. though no one knows the exact ingredients to create such, i believe its different for variious, sensitive individuals. Much like how some optical illusions effect some more than others. Magnetic fields, barometer, pressure, humidity..etc all play on our brains. We can see its effects to some degrees, high humid conditions and your very hot, i'm sure some of you have had blurred vision, maybe even some slight hallucinations just from the heat and humidity alone.....i know have being a roofer. Can change your thought patterns too, emotions even.
Problem is that what you describe here can be used to explain almost ANY sighting. ...if this were such a common / natural phenomina, why question anything we see? I'd be willing to bet that if Phantomhive had had a camera, he'd have captured "something" out of the ordinary. But this brings to mind, What are hallucinations anyway? Isn't it possible that sometimes we are seeing something that we normally wouldn't have been able to see but is nontheless real. We are, after all, conditioned to see in three dimensions.
f1refly   posted:8/11/2010 9:01:28 PM  (Reply)
^ Problem is also the fact that IF you can ever see something that we normally wouldn't have been able to see, then you can do so at any time when an abnormal sighting exists. We'd all be seeing ghosts and who knows what else. We are also conditioned to make faces out of wood grain, clouds...etc. Any object with the right lighting can cause one to see a variety of anything other than what it really is. Face on mars is a relevant example displaying light trickery on cameras. Light trickery, even on camera is a proven phenomenon....that is also a hallucination. Nature can cause all kinds of image trickery in a variety of circumstances and could be why there are so many historical stories of everything from mermaids, to witches.....now adays is laughable, but at one time were more widely believed.....so were all just suppose to instantly believe that every Mothman like story is really a flying humanoid shaped creature with large *ahem* glowing eyes and does what exactly?....fly around in silence only at night to various parts of the world and watch people with large bio illuminescent eyes?.....sounds absolutely rediculous and illogical. Once a story starts out with "it was dark out". you have already created a scenerio valid for hallucinations
tapuout4985   posted:8/11/2010 9:34:19 PM  (Reply)

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f1refly  posted:8/11/2010 9:01:28 PM  (Reply)
^ Problem is also the fact that IF you can ever see something that we normally wouldn't have been able to see, then you can do so at any time when an abnormal sighting exists. We'd all be seeing ghosts and who knows what else. We are also conditioned to make faces out of wood grain, clouds...etc. Any object with the right lighting can cause one to see a variety of anything other than what it really is. Face on mars is a relevant example displaying light trickery on cameras. Light trickery, even on camera is a proven phenomenon....that is also a hallucination. Nature can cause all kinds of image trickery in a variety of circumstances and could be why there are so many historical stories of everything from mermaids, to witches.....now adays is laughable, but at one time were more widely believed.....so were all just suppose to instantly believe that every Mothman like story is really a flying humanoid shaped creature with large *ahem* glowing eyes and does what exactly?....fly around in silence only at night to various parts of the world and watch people with large bio illuminescent eyes?.....sounds absolutely rediculous and illogical. Once a story starts out with "it was dark out". you have already created a scenerio valid for hallucinations
It is true that a large number of sightings must inevitably be faked or misinterpreted.  I don not believe however, that all sightings are faked or misinterpreted.  The story of the Mothman here in the Sates is very similar to the story of the Owlman and Spring Heeled Jack in the Uk.  I think when you have sightings that span a good portion of the globe and centuries of time it is hard to say that everyone is lying or mistaken.  I think that the last two centuries have seen a very anti-superstition approach in both science and religion which has driven people away from the simple truth that we can't explain everything in our world.  It is possible that everything we've ever been told is real.  Maybe al the monsters of ancient mythology aren't here today because they were killed to extinction.  Maybe they all come from a parallel dimension and mankind's vast numbers and technology of this modern era scare them away.  Maybe they were aliens here to colonize the world, and when we started spreading across the globe at an alarming rate they left, set to go back to their homeworld.  Whatever the explanation I believe it is a shame to assume that because the description of the creature or situation seems implausable that it must not be real.  I personally think what people see when they claim to see the Mothman is actually horned owls.  They're big, they fly, their eyeshine is red and their eyes are huge.  Fits the description, but many sightings of the Mothman are just before major catastrophes, and there are usually lots of UFO sightings at the same time, and there is a lengthy list of other preternatural events that deal with the Mothman so maybe there really is something out there. 
godlypunk   posted:8/12/2010 2:51:13 PM  (Reply)

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f1refly  posted:8/11/2010 9:01:28 PM  (Reply)
^ Problem is also the fact that IF you can ever see something that we normally wouldn't have been able to see, then you can do so at any time when an abnormal sighting exists. We'd all be seeing ghosts and who knows what else. We are also conditioned to make faces out of wood grain, clouds...etc. Any object with the right lighting can cause one to see a variety of anything other than what it really is. Face on mars is a relevant example displaying light trickery on cameras. Light trickery, even on camera is a proven phenomenon....that is also a hallucination. Nature can cause all kinds of image trickery in a variety of circumstances and could be why there are so many historical stories of everything from mermaids, to witches.....now adays is laughable, but at one time were more widely believed.....so were all just suppose to instantly believe that every Mothman like story is really a flying humanoid shaped creature with large *ahem* glowing eyes and does what exactly?....fly around in silence only at night to various parts of the world and watch people with large bio illuminescent eyes?.....sounds absolutely rediculous and illogical. Once a story starts out with "it was dark out". you have already created a scenerio valid for hallucinations
I am a firm believer that not all mythological creatures from the past were the product of wild imaginings and as far as the face on Mars is concerned, there is real evidence that NASA is involved in hiding things from the public. But in the end you are welcome to believe how you will. Cheers!
f1refly   posted:8/12/2010 9:59:21 PM  (Reply)
I don not believe however, that all sightings are faked or misinterpretedLikely not, never said otherwise, rather i offerred a concept of the very reality of how easily anyone can be fooled by our own basic senses, our nature of survival. Fear stems imagination also linked to blind sensations of sight, sound or touch , its part of what made our ancestors think about potential danger when any particluar sense of sight,sound, touch..etc was triggered, Like a loud sound in the darkness could mean a large threatening animal. If one person could misinterpret any particular thing...others can too. There is also another phenomena, similar to how one person yawns, another does too, yet somehow one witch story can turn into many pretty quickly. Either way, if someone doesnt really know what a sighting is, the "i don't know" is not really an answer to anything. Imagination quickly sets in to fill the blanks most of the time. Most historical sightings are based on ignorance, and like today, we are still ignorant of much of our physical universe, therefore natural, earthly, often dull explanations tend to win eventually.I too have my own paranormal experiences, but since i don't know 100% certaintity of what it was, then its useless. most likely it was natural or mental source that  science hasnt solved yet. Personally, i choose not have a set belief, cause beliefs can cause stubborn ignorance, rather i keep an open mind to everything and use logic of our reality to form most likely conclusions, i noticed most all historical mysteries that has been solved, were answered with earthly, natural means that we now take for granted as fact and historical ignorance...like the dead comming back to life, mermaids or vampires, some historical cultures really believed that kind of stuff, is the Mothman doomed to such a boring explanation? time may tell.
gemini663181   posted:8/13/2010 11:50:28 AM  (Reply)
It would be a good idea to keep an open mind!!! I think that it is more likely that you saw something paranormal than to believe that you imagined it. Do research in that area and see if there are any records of someone seeing what you saw. Good luck and I would stay off that road too. There are many creatures that exist even though we have no proof that they live along side us. Hopefully your research will come up positive!! Some of us draw the paranormal to us and that could be why you saw what most wouldnt see.
godlypunk   posted:8/13/2010 3:23:30 PM  (Reply)

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gemini663181  posted:8/13/2010 11:50:28 AM  (Reply)
It would be a good idea to keep an open mind!!! I think that it is more likely that you saw something paranormal than to believe that you imagined it. Do research in that area and see if there are any records of someone seeing what you saw. Good luck and I would stay off that road too. There are many creatures that exist even though we have no proof that they live along side us. Hopefully your research will come up positive!! Some of us draw the paranormal to us and that could be why you saw what most wouldnt see.
I used that argument of "sensitives" having paranormal activity drawn to them once to some ghost hunters and it really ticked them off. I think the resentment is "You can't be special". Funny too because most of these same types of people with their fancy new gadgets and measuring equipment now looking for ghost are the exact same type that 20 years ago were making fun of us sensitives for believing in them. Seems we were right all along and we knew it without their precious technology.
gemini663181   posted:8/15/2010 2:31:30 PM  (Reply)
Thanks godlypunk!!! I am a certified parapsychologist and I use a lot of equipment to verify evidence of the paranormal. So I believe in both methods scientific and the natural. I believe that you saw a creature that many others have seen but we have no photos or video yet. I think that you may be a sensitive and that would allow you access to things that others may not be able to see due to the fact that these things may be drawn to you. I hope you will continue to use your gifts for the benefit of others. And I wish I could test your abilities on a laboratory level!! Good luck to you.
alliesha   posted:8/18/2010 6:51:37 AM  (Reply)
wohhaa.. that was scary.. Oh man. I wish things like that never happen to me. Well you know I really dont have the guts to handle scary events. I'm even a Friggatriskaidekaphobic. Every now and again, a Friday happens to be day 13 of any given month. Even though there isn’t any reason to be worried about it as they say, I get really scared and it’s called Friggatriskaidekaphobia? Fear of Friday the 13th Friggatriskaidekaphobia. Black cats are really scary for me since things they do shed and maybe scratch a kid or two.And I  sincerely believe in many superstitions. I am a Friggatriskaidekaphobic because I have a fear of the 13th on a Friday. I really hope Jason Voorhees won’t appear, even if I say the word within the mirror 3 times. huhuhuhuhuh..
Nick_Nocturne   posted:8/18/2010 5:42:51 PM  (Reply)
ive actually studied the mothman case and that sounds alot like the case details to me. Alot of people see the creature while driving usually on backwooded roads or just roads out of the way. The red eyes are kind of the signiture sighting of the mothman. It very well could have been flying backwards though depending on how long you were "following" it down the road. any other details you can think of let me know ive got a whole case file on this
f1refly   posted:9/3/2010 9:03:08 PM  (Reply)
 Amazing how some just want to believe in a mystery so much that they will base their belief on any platform they can imagine despite zero evidence. There are actually a lot of people through out our history that "Claim" to have seen a mermaid. Yes, a half female human and half fish. Perhaps they were just "sensitives" too....sensitive to focus on imagination instead of boring ol reality.Multiple sightings of similar things are not evidence of anything enough to form a belief. Light and Shadow is the #1 cause of all mis- identifications. Almost as if some here choose to disbelieve any other possible explanation other than something "alien", "ghostly" or other. Why is that exactly? everyone loves a mystery perhaps? Everyone has seen,heard or experienced things they can't explain including me but it does not mean our brain did not fool us like how a magician uses illusion fool an audience. In fact, paranormal activity is like both a magicians trick or a natural form of energy we can't detect yet both bares no intelligence or conscienceness.Belief in the unproven is a pathway to linear thought leading nowhere else but the dead end road of ignorance.
godlypunk   posted:9/7/2010 3:48:43 PM  (Reply)

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f1refly  posted:9/3/2010 9:03:08 PM  (Reply)
 Amazing how some just want to believe in a mystery so much that they will base their belief on any platform they can imagine despite zero evidence. There are actually a lot of people through out our history that "Claim" to have seen a mermaid. Yes, a half female human and half fish. Perhaps they were just "sensitives" too....sensitive to focus on imagination instead of boring ol reality.Multiple sightings of similar things are not evidence of anything enough to form a belief. Light and Shadow is the #1 cause of all mis- identifications. Almost as if some here choose to disbelieve any other possible explanation other than something "alien", "ghostly" or other. Why is that exactly? everyone loves a mystery perhaps? Everyone has seen,heard or experienced things they can't explain including me but it does not mean our brain did not fool us like how a magician uses illusion fool an audience. In fact, paranormal activity is like both a magicians trick or a natural form of energy we can't detect yet both bares no intelligence or conscienceness.Belief in the unproven is a pathway to linear thought leading nowhere else but the dead end road of ignorance.
Speaking of ignorance, how much do you actually know about any facet of the paranormal? Have you studied / researched anything extensively? Or, as I presume, have you looked the other way based on your bias? I've heard of the mermaid sightings in precolonial times...they weren't used to seeing seals etc. and misidentified them. There are mountains of evidence in the paranormal field. Alot of people believe in God too........with ZERO evidence of him or her personally. The difference is that in the paranormal field there are actual scientists gathering real evidence.Despite my belief that an opinion should be educated, you are more than welcome to yours.


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