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Jaxerback   posted:8/4/2012 11:36:16 PM  (Reply)
Came across this "music" recently.Is there anything scientifically measurable here??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaUtoBSt8js
Jaxerback   posted:8/4/2012 11:57:27 PM  (Reply)
Sounds like a whale in heat!!
It is supposed to alter your brains delta waves.
Gave me a migrane.
LincolnGenghis   posted:8/5/2012 4:34:06 AM  (Reply)
Yeah That Sound Track Is No Good..... For a true realization of ones self there are much better sound tracks available. Better meditation music down below to say the least.

LincolnGenghis   posted:8/5/2012 5:10:17 AM  (Reply)
Ok so that might have been slightly fast. This one is more rythmic and melodic. LOL But still good meditation music.


LincolnGenghis   posted:8/5/2012 5:38:14 AM  (Reply)
THIS IS PERHAPS ... One of my favorite meditation songs. Yeah on the surface it looks like just a UK based song but it could easily speak to anybody under any flag now days. I was born and grew up in the US myself and love the song. Just remember this ... If you have an official in your country that was ellected by the people and gets their paycheck through your taxes ... ergo that is your employee and not the other way around. Anyone can be fired. Thats what recalls are for.




Levinus   posted:8/5/2012 8:02:16 AM  (Reply)

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Jaxerback  posted:8/4/2012 11:36:16 PM  (Reply)
Came across this "music" recently.Is there anything scientifically measurable here??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaUtoBSt8js
Nope, it is bogus and they want your money.

Here's why. They are confusing two different kinds of science. Firstly, calming music DOES have a pretty impressive reaction. People can induce alpha brain waves much more quickly if they are relaxed using music, warm milk, a soft blanket.... These states are not some sort of altered consciousness that encourage lucid dreaming. They are states you will go into anyway during normal sleep cycles.

All this nonsense about two different frequencies hitting different ears.... Complete idiocy. If a pianist plays a perfect fifth using C and G, the both notes are registered in both ears at the same time, which is vastly more complex. Essentially, if there was any foundation to their claims....you would slip into an altered state every time you heard Fur Elise, ACDC, or any combination of the harmonic series.

So to answer your question...yes. We can measure brainwaves which DO change according to external stimuli like music. To answer it in more detail...no...these binaural beats are just a con to get money. It is no more effective scientifically than listening anything else you find comforting.

I might also point out that there is a popular method now of advertising things that don't apply to us. For example, a TV with a refresh rate of over 160 hz is just a con to get your money. Why? Because our brains can't tell the difference after 160 or so. I haven't looked into it, but I'm sure a bitrate has a limit too. I know that as we get older, the higher bitrate we need to retain auditory information. But most people can't tell the difference between 92 or 128 kbps, let alone 300.

Also, I do know that mp3 encoding drastically reduces the bitrate. This is to reduce the size of music, not the clarity. True music connoisseurs record in analog where there is a massively high bitrate. But to the layman, we couldn't tell anyway. But having a high bitrate doesn't mean you can induce magical stages of consciousness. For that, we have to meditate and train ourselves for many many years.
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 12:50:51 AM  (Reply)

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LincolnGenghis  posted:8/5/2012 4:34:06 AM  (Reply)
Yeah That Sound Track Is No Good..... For a true realization of ones self there are much better sound tracks available. Better meditation music down below to say the least.

Interesting is the best way to describe that particular piece!!
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 12:52:29 AM  (Reply)

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LincolnGenghis  posted:8/5/2012 5:10:17 AM  (Reply)
Ok so that might have been slightly fast. This one is more rythmic and melodic. LOL But still good meditation music.


Showing your age now...better though!
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 12:58:36 AM  (Reply)

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LincolnGenghis  posted:8/5/2012 5:38:14 AM  (Reply)
THIS IS PERHAPS ... One of my favorite meditation songs. Yeah on the surface it looks like just a UK based song but it could easily speak to anybody under any flag now days. I was born and grew up in the US myself and love the song. Just remember this ... If you have an official in your country that was ellected by the people and gets their paycheck through your taxes ... ergo that is your employee and not the other way around. Anyone can be fired. Thats what recalls are for.




This video contains content from EMI,who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds..
Ahhh feck I was looking forward to that one...hang on...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8szRgIcYlY
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 1:05:36 AM  (Reply)

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Levinus  posted:8/5/2012 8:02:16 AM  (Reply)
Nope, it is bogus and they want your money.

Here's why. They are confusing two different kinds of science. Firstly, calming music DOES have a pretty impressive reaction. People can induce alpha brain waves much more quickly if they are relaxed using music, warm milk, a soft blanket.... These states are not some sort of altered consciousness that encourage lucid dreaming. They are states you will go into anyway during normal sleep cycles.

All this nonsense about two different frequencies hitting different ears.... Complete idiocy. If a pianist plays a perfect fifth using C and G, the both notes are registered in both ears at the same time, which is vastly more complex. Essentially, if there was any foundation to their claims....you would slip into an altered state every time you heard Fur Elise, ACDC, or any combination of the harmonic series.

So to answer your question...yes. We can measure brainwaves which DO change according to external stimuli like music. To answer it in more detail...no...these binaural beats are just a con to get money. It is no more effective scientifically than listening anything else you find comforting.

I might also point out that there is a popular method now of advertising things that don't apply to us. For example, a TV with a refresh rate of over 160 hz is just a con to get your money. Why? Because our brains can't tell the difference after 160 or so. I haven't looked into it, but I'm sure a bitrate has a limit too. I know that as we get older, the higher bitrate we need to retain auditory information. But most people can't tell the difference between 92 or 128 kbps, let alone 300.

Also, I do know that mp3 encoding drastically reduces the bitrate. This is to reduce the size of music, not the clarity. True music connoisseurs record in analog where there is a massively high bitrate. But to the layman, we couldn't tell anyway. But having a high bitrate doesn't mean you can induce magical stages of consciousness. For that, we have to meditate and train ourselves for many many years.
I knew that Lev..just as a matter of interest,can you use meditation to reach "magical states of consciousness"?
Personally I have been trying for years with little success.
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 1:08:04 AM  (Reply)
This one induces a semi orgasmic condition though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkUpfw4Hf3w
Jaxerback   posted:8/7/2012 1:15:25 AM  (Reply)
I also play the guitar so I might be slightly biased about a guitar playing Irish man..
LincolnGenghis   posted:8/11/2012 12:45:49 AM  (Reply)

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Jaxerback  posted:8/7/2012 12:52:29 AM  (Reply)
Showing your age now...better though!
LOL I am not that old, I just have a very refined taste in music. I think I was playing with Hotwheels and Legos when that song first came out.
Jaxerback   posted:8/11/2012 11:05:14 PM  (Reply)
I was playing with Evil Knievel and meccano!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETPEB7B-wf8


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