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What’s the difference between the "Watchers" and the "Nephilim"?


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jeff   posted:3/4/2010 6:59:19 AM  (Reply)
Can't figure this one out. All I can come up with is that a 'watcher' seems to be a thought-form as it is drawn from the word 'egregore' or 'igigi', and they exist on the astral plane fed by the energy generated by human thought and emotion, and the Nephilim are supposedly half-men/half-god creations that exist (or existed) on the material plane. Or are they the same thing?Any takers?
Stonewolf_AOD   posted:3/6/2010 12:51:50 PM  (Reply)
Well they are and they arent. The major difference is that Watchers do not need to be half angel. They can be wholey one thing, or partly another. Watchers can exist on the material plane, it is not unheard of, but they usually stay etheral for their own protection. Nephilim are the children of man and angel. Also, Nephilim do not feed on emotion or thought. They are mortal beings, they eat food just like us. Is it possible for a Nephilim to become a Watcher? Possibly. I wouldnt say no to the idea, but I havent heard of it before.
Ninnana   posted:3/6/2010 1:19:12 PM  (Reply)

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jeff  posted:3/4/2010 6:59:19 AM  (Reply)
Can't figure this one out. All I can come up with is that a 'watcher' seems to be a thought-form as it is drawn from the word 'egregore' or 'igigi', and they exist on the astral plane fed by the energy generated by human thought and emotion, and the Nephilim are supposedly half-men/half-god creations that exist (or existed) on the material plane. Or are they the same thing?Any takers?
The purpose? Watchers are Guardians that feed on you.Nephilims are hybrid....
Ninnana   posted:3/6/2010 1:25:02 PM  (Reply)
But naming something an angel doesnt neccesseraly mean they are of angelic nature. It would take pure goodness to make one, but Nephilim are more Human.
jeff   posted:3/6/2010 2:14:24 PM  (Reply)

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Ninnana  posted:3/6/2010 1:19:12 PM  (Reply)
The purpose? Watchers are Guardians that feed on you.Nephilims are hybrid....
But who watches the Watchmen?
Stonewolf_AOD   posted:3/6/2010 10:58:46 PM  (Reply)
An angel is not a title. It is a species. Angel are winged beings from a parallell universe (aka Garden of Eden, Heaven, etc.). However, to be a "Messanger of God" is perhaps a title that some angels are given. A nephilim is when a species of angel breeds with a human. The offspring is a highly advanced human with more chromosones that naturally occuring, but less than an angel has, so they are their own species. Thus they are named Nephilim.
Ninnana   posted:3/7/2010 5:16:42 AM  (Reply)
Ok, if you take your "info" from the Bible, sure, but Im not so sure that those were Angels making it with human ladies!
tapuout4985   posted:3/14/2010 12:33:22 AM  (Reply)
I've always thought that comparing the two is a difficult task because of the cultural dissimilarities between modern man and ancient man.  Thousands of years of the telphone game has corrupted the context and meaning of the words and it is really just best guess at this point.  Nephilim are generally considered to be half angel half man, and the Watchers seem to be their own entity, perhaps comparable to the d'Jinn in Islam.  I have never liked the stories of Nephilim because of the mixed beliefs in what an angel is.  Some people belive that angels have free will, and therefore they chose to take human women and create half-angelic beings with them.  Then other people believe that angels have no free will and are subject solely to the will of God, but then the creation of the Nephilim was God's will and that the angels were just tools (which strikes me funny because modern cinema often portrays them as a bunch of tools).  Then, of course, the Bible and the apocrypha don't seem to agree on anything, but that's ok because thankfully a handfull of really trustful guys 1600 years ago were able to know which was right an which was wrong and we don't have to worry about deciding for ourselves.  So in conclusion, final decision is ->
jeff   posted:3/14/2010 12:23:30 PM  (Reply)
Some people belive that angels have free will, and therefore they chose to take human women and create half-angelic beings with them.  Then other people believe that angels have no free will and are subject solely to the will of God, but then the creation of the Nephilim was God's will and that the angels were just toolsI've always viewed angels as the equivalent of archetypes, and to be an archetype, you have to follow a distinct set of rules. Just like science has the scientific method, 'angels' would follow the angelic method. It is a choice to follow the tenants of an archetype, it is a choice to follow the rules, so angels have free will, the watchers have free will, yet they use that free will to restrict themselves to a certain set of processes or rules, on the astral plane or otherwise.
Stonewolf_AOD   posted:3/14/2010 5:21:41 PM  (Reply)
My info doesnt come from the bible itself. Angels are best described as humans with wings. To have wings you would need a genetic difference, and evolved mutation that would set the subgroup to something different than a human. Thus an angel would classify itself as a completely seperate species.  As to them having relations with women, the Bible technically says angels dont have genders, and that only their vessels could have such relations. I don't believe this to be true. I believe angels are inter-dimensional. I think that they are beings that exsist on a seperate plain, and that when they come to this plain, they can have such relations. This would in turn create Nephilim. Watchers, in my opinion (having only done bits of research) seem to be etheral entities who can feed off of human energies and emotions, and can take on vessles like angels can.  So in the end, the big difference is Angels = Interdimensional and physical, Nephilim = The result of angel and human offspring (thus physical and bound to this plain), Watchers = Etheral.
Ninnana   posted:3/14/2010 6:21:20 PM  (Reply)
Wrong. Period.
Shadow0035   posted:3/15/2010 9:37:37 AM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:3/14/2010 12:33:22 AM  (Reply)
I've always thought that comparing the two is a difficult task because of the cultural dissimilarities between modern man and ancient man.  Thousands of years of the telphone game has corrupted the context and meaning of the words and it is really just best guess at this point.  Nephilim are generally considered to be half angel half man, and the Watchers seem to be their own entity, perhaps comparable to the d'Jinn in Islam.  I have never liked the stories of Nephilim because of the mixed beliefs in what an angel is.  Some people belive that angels have free will, and therefore they chose to take human women and create half-angelic beings with them.  Then other people believe that angels have no free will and are subject solely to the will of God, but then the creation of the Nephilim was God's will and that the angels were just tools (which strikes me funny because modern cinema often portrays them as a bunch of tools).  Then, of course, the Bible and the apocrypha don't seem to agree on anything, but that's ok because thankfully a handfull of really trustful guys 1600 years ago were able to know which was right an which was wrong and we don't have to worry about deciding for ourselves.  So in conclusion, final decision is ->
I like your explination on them i personally havent done much reaserch on the two so i cant say much on them.
jeff   posted:3/17/2010 3:32:51 AM  (Reply)
Well, here's my best guess on the difference between the two: http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?ArticleID=1422
Snerdelovsky   posted:3/21/2010 10:08:14 AM  (Reply)
If I understand correctly, according to the Bible, there were the "sons of God" who mated with the "daughters of man" and produced the giants who were the Nephilim or "fallen ones."  First, how can there be a species of exclusively MALES?  Wouldn't they be necessarily asexual or homosexual if they were ALL one gender, IF they really existed?  Sounds more like the same old fear and ego-driven, anthropocentric universe model.  Evil aliens went and screwed up the oh-so-superior humans (wink wink, nudge nudge).  I think the human race need only concern itself with itself, to the extent anyone on this planet is Fallen, and it has nothing to do with the Garden of Eden mumbo-jumbo.  Or that's my .02, whatever it's actually worth.
gloria    posted:3/24/2010 9:47:25 PM  (Reply)
Well Stonewold AOD, I agree with what you said, but the bible have been around for many moons, and what it says it means. so don't under-estimate the power of those words. with what I read, and reserge, yes, the Nephilim are angels of GOD, who saw that the human women were beautifull and desired them, and yes, God could have stoped it, but I think they did have free will, and like us, they too are tested to see how far they will go. We all know how that turn out, not good....what is a watcher? I think that is several things, it could mean more than one thing...our world is big, and belive it or not, there are places out there that we do not no of . like, where does Big foot hide, and all the other strange things that walk on this earth. where are those thunderbirds that you see only once in a blue moon. are they being watched by certain kind of beings created by God, it is a very complicated topic. we really just don't know, and all we know is what you and I have read or heard about in the past... 
loudmouthbaby   posted:3/24/2010 10:34:15 PM  (Reply)
According to infromation from the Holy Bible...Angels have free will and do not procreate on there own. Adam was the first human specimen created and he was created in the image of god, therefore we can assume that that being true, angels were also created in the image of god. At least the type that were able to procreate with woman.  The argument that angels would never have sexual relations with woman can be nulified by the fact that the bible also talks about a whole legion of angels who fell with Lucifer, before or during the creation of our blessed planet.  I have also researched a watcher type of angels who do not feed on thought, but given the right vessel, in a location close to god (gods creations) can impant holy or enlightned thoughts to humans who are willing to except good. If there are types of angels that do this then it makes sense that fallen versions of these angels may feed on (implant or suggest) evil, given the right vessel in the right location.  


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