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mysticaura   posted:8/7/2010 4:55:29 AM  (Reply)
Has anyone watched the movie "The Fourth Kind"? And what did you think about? It made me think about aliens and abductions. I really didn't like the part where the aliens knew what the people were doing and would harm them and also how the aliens said that they were God. My God is not a cruel God. So this movie upset me and freaked me out. It is scary what some people are reporting about abductions and the cruelity and toture they go through. While some report nice encounters.
macros72   posted:8/7/2010 6:26:43 AM  (Reply)
Its was a very disturbing film but it was also a horror movie so i suppose it did what it was supposed to do :)I will admit that i couldnt sleep the night after watching that movie :)  It left me thinking here we see part of the private horror that an abductee as to live with  That is - those who have unfortunate dealings with the melevolent ETs.  I dont think such beings are our god but use the word loosley to demonstrate their superior development and technology over us.  Very cruel, very negative and not a good representation of a so called more evolved species.Mysticaura you are not alone in the way this movie left you feeling.Peace and protection.  .   
mysticaura   posted:8/7/2010 7:39:57 AM  (Reply)

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macros72  posted:8/7/2010 6:26:43 AM  (Reply)
Its was a very disturbing film but it was also a horror movie so i suppose it did what it was supposed to do :)I will admit that i couldnt sleep the night after watching that movie :)  It left me thinking here we see part of the private horror that an abductee as to live with  That is - those who have unfortunate dealings with the melevolent ETs.  I dont think such beings are our god but use the word loosley to demonstrate their superior development and technology over us.  Very cruel, very negative and not a good representation of a so called more evolved species.Mysticaura you are not alone in the way this movie left you feeling.Peace and protection.  .   
Yes very disturbing! I too could not sleep after watching this. You make a vey good point though, in which, I have thought of also but didn't put much thought into it until now. What you said about the aliens "demonstrating their superior development and technology over us". This could very true. To scare and control us. You would think that a more advanced species would not be so cruel. I understand that there are different kinds of aliens out there. Good and bad. So... in this movie they say the child is theirs. It makes me wonder how many women and animals did they impregante over time. Or even doing test on. If you got a good look at the "real mother"(the documentry footage). She herself did not look fully human. Or take a good look around us at some people and animals. Some of them don't look right. They some what ressemble the aliens people are reporting to encounter. This movie is to be true events in alaska. The movie "Fire in the Sky" is also based on true events. What scares me the most is that alot of these people are not aware that they are even being abducted. I truely believe we are not alone. Thank you. Peace and protection to you too.
macros72   posted:8/7/2010 8:49:02 AM  (Reply)
Fire in the sky although not accurate to what Travis Walton experienced sure did demonstrate the alien reality and how sickly it can appear to an outsider.The movie Communion scared the hell out of me and left me with an unknown fear or dread to these Grey beings.(which lasted for a few months) :)I think i read somewhere that the numbers of people abducted is something like 1000s per day around the globe.  99% of are unaware that anything as happened but sometimes an image, smell or sound can trigger a brief flashback to some garbled experience that you cannot place.  I myself have awoken to find odd markings, scratches and scars upon my body.  One night i awoke with pain in my arms and shoulders and found i was laying the wrong way around in bed :) In my childhood I would often find my night clothing was inside out.  Ive seen ufos too and where as child i would have gone "wow" i now feel afraid of them - which can look silly.  Of the ones Ive seen - bright white egg shaped objects and a orange ball I detect great intelligence eminating from them and get the feeling they know Im looking at them.   A good read for you would be a book (that can be read online) called In League with a UFO by Lou F Baldin.  The book is a scientists account of learning to understand a disk that was found damaged (which later repaired itself!).  The technology inside is almost magical in how it operates, they never fully mapped the inside of the craft as it seemed to be full of secret and sometimes deadly rooms and passages.  They spent good few years handling these small alien objects inside the craft often finding by trial and error what they did - nearly always something associated with scanning, entering, repairing the human body!!!  Any object taken from the craft would dissappear after (i think) 3 days.  This all led to contact, abduction and visitation by the crafts owners (who turned out the be friendly but blunt and harsh in their actions at times)Search out the book and read as it may restore faith in there being good guys out there that monitor the bad ones.    
tapuout4985   posted:8/7/2010 2:37:34 PM  (Reply)
What I didn't like about the movie was that they tried making it seem like all the footage was real, but it isn't.  I was really disappointed to find out that all the movie is actually just fictional film and that there really isn't any original abduction documentary or anything.  Other than that let down I was very pleased with the over all style of filming and I thought it was one of the more legitimately frightening movies I've seen since probably American Werewolf in London.  As just a straight horror flick it is pretty good.
f1refly   posted:8/9/2010 9:16:07 PM  (Reply)
 How many humans with a gun have that personality trait to point and say they are god? Hunters do it all the time, vastly superior technology to a Deer for instance,  I imagine real aliens would be no different, likely complex array of personalities befitting of their species and probably very confusing behavior for us.but of course, this movie is fictional, Actually all the UFO documentaries, supposed caught on tapes...etc are nothing but entertainment and a means to get audiences to watch. So much fake stuff out there, fake documentaries with fake evidence even..NBC anyone? only cause the real things are either boring...like a ball of light in the sky for 10 secs, or have potentially normal earthly explanations.
gemini663181   posted:8/10/2010 11:58:07 AM  (Reply)
As a certified parapsychologist I watched this film to see what it offered in the way of reality. It was well made and has a great deal of reality in its content. We have to remember that what ever religion we have faith in that the fact is that if we have been interfered with in a negative or positive way during our history, We would believe the beings that have contacted us to be angels or Gods. Our ancestors would not have had a concept of E.T.s and the E.T.s themselves especially if they were ego based creatures such as man would have enjoyed being worshipped as Gods. We have lots of evidence in the bible of what appears to be alien influence by description and also evidence in Genesis of possible alien human genome interaction. It is the interpretation of the reader to believe that the angels are spirit beings or descriptions of alien beings in the langauge of the time. I would not lose sleep over this film or any other that presents us with the question,Do we belive in the truth as we know it or do we believe in the truth as we have confused it. There are theories that say that we were seeded here on earth as a last chance of a dying world far from this planet. There is also the possibility that we were helped by alien species to further our ability to survive in a hostile environment. Purhaps we are the aliens here and we are strangers in what we call our world. I will submit some info to this effect as well as biblical quotes at www.esps.co.cc
macros72   posted:8/10/2010 4:36:45 PM  (Reply)
Its claimed that any creation not birthed naturally  doesnt contain a soul.  Now go back to the claims from Roswell survivors that we are containers with souls....Could this mean that the ET effected births are souless and used for storage of a soul from their own heritage or some project?It makes sense if you think about it as if they are more evolved and aware of laws they surely couldnt be allowed to play god.  They cannot mingle with another lifeform and force it to birth their own....crazy i know but thats the idea that came to me.  Perhaps this is why they take the new born prior to birth so that they can utilise it?    
gemini663181   posted:8/12/2010 1:27:28 PM  (Reply)
Could you be more clear on what you believe Macros72 it makes a good point but where are you on this subject?
kkelly560   posted:8/12/2010 3:10:14 PM  (Reply)

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mysticaura  posted:8/7/2010 4:55:29 AM  (Reply)
Has anyone watched the movie "The Fourth Kind"? And what did you think about? It made me think about aliens and abductions. I really didn't like the part where the aliens knew what the people were doing and would harm them and also how the aliens said that they were God. My God is not a cruel God. So this movie upset me and freaked me out. It is scary what some people are reporting about abductions and the cruelity and toture they go through. While some report nice encounters.
I think aliens are a lot like humans - some are good and some are bad.  I'd like to know why these aliens kept the little girl.  For future breeding purposes?  For experimentation?  They could be experimenting on humans just like we experiment on animals. 
mysticaura   posted:8/14/2010 10:35:09 AM  (Reply)

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kkelly560  posted:8/12/2010 3:10:14 PM  (Reply)
I think aliens are a lot like humans - some are good and some are bad.  I'd like to know why these aliens kept the little girl.  For future breeding purposes?  For experimentation?  They could be experimenting on humans just like we experiment on animals. 
Yes I agree with good and bad aliens. I think they kept the little girl because they breed her with the woman and there for believe that shes theirs. So many children and people come up missing with no motive. Just disappear. Some of them come back with no memory of what happened and or find them selves in odd places or with marks on them. Or with no clothes on. I think they are experimenting on people and animals and breeding with humans. I also think that there maybe land bases here already with them already here and visiting often.
mysticaura   posted:8/14/2010 10:54:53 AM  (Reply)

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macros72  posted:8/7/2010 8:49:02 AM  (Reply)
Fire in the sky although not accurate to what Travis Walton experienced sure did demonstrate the alien reality and how sickly it can appear to an outsider.The movie Communion scared the hell out of me and left me with an unknown fear or dread to these Grey beings.(which lasted for a few months) :)I think i read somewhere that the numbers of people abducted is something like 1000s per day around the globe.  99% of are unaware that anything as happened but sometimes an image, smell or sound can trigger a brief flashback to some garbled experience that you cannot place.  I myself have awoken to find odd markings, scratches and scars upon my body.  One night i awoke with pain in my arms and shoulders and found i was laying the wrong way around in bed :) In my childhood I would often find my night clothing was inside out.  Ive seen ufos too and where as child i would have gone "wow" i now feel afraid of them - which can look silly.  Of the ones Ive seen - bright white egg shaped objects and a orange ball I detect great intelligence eminating from them and get the feeling they know Im looking at them.   A good read for you would be a book (that can be read online) called In League with a UFO by Lou F Baldin.  The book is a scientists account of learning to understand a disk that was found damaged (which later repaired itself!).  The technology inside is almost magical in how it operates, they never fully mapped the inside of the craft as it seemed to be full of secret and sometimes deadly rooms and passages.  They spent good few years handling these small alien objects inside the craft often finding by trial and error what they did - nearly always something associated with scanning, entering, repairing the human body!!!  Any object taken from the craft would dissappear after (i think) 3 days.  This all led to contact, abduction and visitation by the crafts owners (who turned out the be friendly but blunt and harsh in their actions at times)Search out the book and read as it may restore faith in there being good guys out there that monitor the bad ones.    
I had to sit back and think about what you have gone through as child and growing up. I can't even imagine how that must have been. I am truely sorry for your experience. It may a good thing that you don't remember any of it. Or has time made it possible for you to remember some things? I my self have never experienced(that i know of) anything like and alien abduction. And if I did I don't know if I would want to remember it. I will look into that book and read it. I do believe there are good ones also and not just bad. What I would like to know, is why are these aliens so sneaky and stay at a distance? If they are so superior than us then you would think they would be more likely to communicate in a rightly manner. Some of them anyway. But then the thought that if they have to act as they do and do what they do then they are the cowards.
macros72   posted:8/14/2010 12:23:04 PM  (Reply)

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mysticaura  posted:8/14/2010 10:54:53 AM  (Reply)
I had to sit back and think about what you have gone through as child and growing up. I can't even imagine how that must have been. I am truely sorry for your experience. It may a good thing that you don't remember any of it. Or has time made it possible for you to remember some things? I my self have never experienced(that i know of) anything like and alien abduction. And if I did I don't know if I would want to remember it. I will look into that book and read it. I do believe there are good ones also and not just bad. What I would like to know, is why are these aliens so sneaky and stay at a distance? If they are so superior than us then you would think they would be more likely to communicate in a rightly manner. Some of them anyway. But then the thought that if they have to act as they do and do what they do then they are the cowards.
Ive had odd moments where a object, word spoken a sound etc springs up an odd but fascinating feeling or idea - often similar to Deja-vu.  With these strange ideas comes a humming noise to the back, just inside one of my ears.  It leaves me knowing that something else happens in my life occasionally that is kept hidden from me.I think they are so sneaky because worldwide knowledge of there presence and activities in great detail would cause a severe breakdown in the mindset of humanity. It would cause chaos for the good willed ETs too as mankind would fear all alien life.     
Severen   posted:8/19/2010 7:29:45 PM  (Reply)
I refused to watch it.  I've had direct, firsthand experience with being abducted.  The preview fucked with me for 3 days after I saw it.  Not to mention that mainstream perception of adbuction/abductees is really far out of whack.  Perfectly rational people who have very real anxiety and other emotional problems due to being abducted are constantly marginalized and dismissed.  Aliens are real, and they are abducting people. Hollywood crap like this movie are designed to scare people.  Abduction is real, but there is no way anyone can speculate on motives or whether or not extra-terrestrials are doing anything out of cruelty or malice.  Everyone should read Communion.  Whitley Strieber is 100% telling the truth, without trying to scare the shit out of people.
Joshy Unbound   posted:8/20/2010 8:43:55 AM  (Reply)
The Fourth Kind scared the hell out of me. All my life I had been serching for answers to things that happened to me when I was a kid. I'd been told by various people that what I'd seen and experienced was The Death Entity, a ghost and even the mothman. I would wake up in the middle of the night and go "play" outside, remembering very little until being back home. As such, my experiences are very close to what Whitley Strieber described in The Secret School (which also scared the hell out of me) with the alien creature I remember seeing (something I'll never be able to forget) more resembling an entity David Icke mentions in Children of the Matrix... a reptilian light being. As a kid in Pennsylvania I recall quite a few instances outside of that... I remember my mother, grandmother, sister, brothers and I watching very lengthy UFO manuvers in the sky when we'd gone to see Beastmaster at the drive-in. My mother, grandfather and grandmother all witnessed the Keckburg crash while they were going through the valley before the flooding of the land for the Kinzua Dam. When I cam across a worn paperback of Communion the picture freaked me out so, of course, I bought it. I read it straight through and it scared the hell out of me so much so that I refused to sleep at night for about a month afterward. The movie freaks me out too. Alien movies, when done well, always terrify me. I was told recently by a psychic that has proven herself to me to be VERY trustworthy, honest and accurate, that I have Pleiadian ancestry as well as an "alien guardian" that I have always known was there just could not quite identify (which is true, have not only seen it but been told so by several people, my mother has even seen it). Paranormal stuff happens to me quite regularly.
macros72   posted:8/20/2010 3:30:38 PM  (Reply)
I think hollywood is all part of the game which is lead people into fearing the alien.  I read Communion shortly after seeing the movie and as a young adult couldnt quite grasp why i too found the image on the front so terrifying.  The cover of transformation also gave me the shivers.  Around this period in my life i had many spooky experiences at home and almost always at night.  One I remember is laying in my bed facing the wall and feeling two small hands tooking in covers around me.  As i came around i heard a buzzy noise in my head which sent me back into sleep.  Another occasion at night involved a strange silence around me.  I awoke finding the covers on the bedroom floor and myself quite sweaty.  I got up and went to the window puzzled by this silence.  Outside everything seemed still or frozen.  No stars in the clear sky,   Although everything seemed and looked so peaceful it all had a "wrong" feeling about it and i went and sat in the dark near my computer desk.  I then held myself with worry and almost in tears (seems strange i know but at that moment nothing felt right).  I must have passed out or something but awoke to the early sun shing through the curtains with a sign of relief back in bed.  As a young child i was fascinated with outerspace and where all the other boys had a globe of the earth in their bedrooms all i wanted was Mars or Venus. :)I few years back whilst meditating one sunday afternoon came a distinct vision in my minds eye which freaked me out alittle.  A little guy with large moisty black eyes moved in my mind towards my side little and looked up at me!  It had a little bump where its nose was and very small lips.  I got the impression this was a youngling interested in my "energy" shape and form and not my body.  It looked kinda cute and harmless and as quick as it came off it fizzled into the void of the mind.  Next came a new image of a tan coloured room with a archway entrance.  A very tall man seemed to fade into the scene, wearing a robe with a wide patterned rim around the neck.  He looked human and caught my fascination.  It was only when i noticed its eyes where different that i realised it wasnt human.  They too where black but human sized.  His face was similar to a childs in its radiance and health.  The eyes, small nose and small mouth where very close together.  The head although human shaped seemed wider than ours.  It just stood looking at me and again i felt nothing nasty from this man.  He just stood and the more he looked at me the more i felt him getting closer without moving.  The music i was listening to came to an end and i came to my senses and sat up, eyes wide open.  I never "seen" this being since.Last year I had a vivid dream involving again a very tall hooded man, entering the house.  He sensed my shock and fear and moved out of sight.  In March of this year i awoke and caught site of the same figure stood in my bedroom.  He quickly moved off to one side and faded away.  I think this being is some kind of guide, some internet sites point to this being a so called shadow person but i disagree.  What ever he is he never comes to instil fear - its me that creates that :) Thanks for reading my adventures in the unknown.
macros72   posted:8/20/2010 4:04:44 PM  (Reply)

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gemini663181  posted:8/12/2010 1:27:28 PM  (Reply)
Could you be more clear on what you believe Macros72 it makes a good point but where are you on this subject?
I think Earth is a learning tool for growing spirits or souls.  To me a human soul has no difference to a so called ETs.  All souls on earth are a mix of different grades who may have spent all learning here in past lifes or some lifetimes in other realms, other planets.  So this is why ETs with vision see us as their brothers and sisters even if we are a 1000 years behind them in terms of technology and knowledge.  We are all from the same source.  There must be governor civilisations out there that monitor the growth of collective souls -  the race that dwells upon a planet.  You see, not only is the race important but also the planet too which is also a living being (years ago i would have laughed at this idea)  Certain souls from more advanced races or civilisations will realise a call from a planet in need of assistance.  The planet may sing out in joy or cry out in sadness sending out its feeling via its energy.  Certain Souls will feel this and in their own level of growth will see an opening for them to grow and or to help the mindset of the race with aim to change its current path.  Earth is full of souls at this time that where previously from higher more advanced races and civilisations.  All other souls here have seen how much they could learn from these highly evolved ones and this is their calling or reason for joining the earth race at this time.  Some (in their container-body) may indeed have hard lifes but at an higher level its like a once in a life time chance to accelerate their development by being surrounded by such harse conditions and yet also by many, many gifted guides and spirits sharing this earth life in a body too. Phew...thats was deep :)Certain ET races will know which containers house their subjects here and will always keep an eye on them.  Not all subjects will know from where they came prior for this may have been part of the life choice that would best help them and earth.  The bad guys out there will also have subjects here that are against grow but attracted to the suffering or crying of a planet.  They come to continue this aspect of a race and its world for they are deeply negative and dispise the glory of creation.  We see positive as being natural, they see the oposite.  But this allows for balance within the universe and all its creations.I think that some visitors want to experience the earth realm without getting their hands dirty.  These, a mix of good guys or bad guys prefer to create copies of the target and move its soul matrix into the new container for short periods.  This allows them to measure, study and theorise on matters important only to them.  A person with bad experiences from these visitors must remember that his/her soul knew of these events prior to birth.  A soul may for example agree to a very hard and suffering life just so it can shine its loving energy upon its agressor/captor/abuser etc.  A growing soul will always do all it can to help pull those up who are stuck in the mud :)Peace to all with thanks. 
barkatiefromtheDoor   posted:8/28/2010 6:27:07 PM  (Reply)
I have not seen "The Fourth Kind" as this would keep me up at night.  I am already a strong believer in the paranormal and know somehow that things happen to us during our sleep that are probably best not known.  I recall some things but treat them as bad dreams to allow my sanity.  I am only afraid when I think of what we do not know in the way of alien abduction or experimentation. I have had such sad horrible dreams but wake up in one piece, although I never forget the feeling or the awareness of the horror.I have woken up with the strangest pain in places that should not be hurting.  I have woken with  complete disorientation and loss of who I am and where I am.  Not a good feeling.  I am on the same page with Stephen Hawkings.  They may not be so nice and friendly when they do come. Does anyone feel a connection with the Pliedes as I do?  I have no reason to feel this but deep down know this group of stars is very important.
Joshy Unbound   posted:9/2/2010 10:57:02 AM  (Reply)

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barkatiefromtheDoor  posted:8/28/2010 6:27:07 PM  (Reply)
I have not seen "The Fourth Kind" as this would keep me up at night.  I am already a strong believer in the paranormal and know somehow that things happen to us during our sleep that are probably best not known.  I recall some things but treat them as bad dreams to allow my sanity.  I am only afraid when I think of what we do not know in the way of alien abduction or experimentation. I have had such sad horrible dreams but wake up in one piece, although I never forget the feeling or the awareness of the horror.I have woken up with the strangest pain in places that should not be hurting.  I have woken with  complete disorientation and loss of who I am and where I am.  Not a good feeling.  I am on the same page with Stephen Hawkings.  They may not be so nice and friendly when they do come. Does anyone feel a connection with the Pliedes as I do?  I have no reason to feel this but deep down know this group of stars is very important.
Yes. I have been told by several different psychics that I am (Indigo) Pleiadian and that my son is Crystal. 
jeff   posted:9/2/2010 8:39:47 PM  (Reply)

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Joshy Unbound  posted:9/2/2010 10:57:02 AM  (Reply)
Yes. I have been told by several different psychics that I am (Indigo) Pleiadian and that my son is Crystal. 
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