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gary107   posted:5/27/2011 3:28:31 PM  (Reply)
on BEFORE IT'S NEWS : water on Moon equivalent to Earth!  100x higher than previously measured, ...
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 4:20:27 PM  (Reply)
A team of NASA-funded researchers has measured for the first time water from the moon in the form of tiny globules of molten rock, which have turned to glass-like material trapped within crystals. Data from these newly-discovered lunar melt inclusions indicate the water content of lunar magma is 100 times higher than previous studies suggested. Lunar SurfaceCredit NASAThe inclusions were found in lunar sample 74220, the famous high-titanium "orange glass soil" of volcanic origin collected during the Apollo 17 mission in 1972. The scientific team used a state-of-the-art ion microprobe instrument to measure the water content of the inclusions, which were formed during explosive eruptions on the moon approximately 3.7 billion years ago.Pictured here is a super-tiny melt inclusion from lunar soil samples. Image credit: Saal lab/Brown University The results published in the May 26 issue of Science Express raise questions about aspects of the "giant impact theory" of how the moon was created. That theory predicted very low water content of lunar rock due to catastrophic degassing during the collision of Earth with a Mars-sized body very early in its history.The study also provides additional scientific justification for returning similar samples from other planetary bodies in the solar system.Scientists detect Earth-equivalent amount of water within the moon from Brown PAUR on Vimeo."Water plays a critical role in determining the tectonic behavior of planetary surfaces, the melting point of planetary interiors and the location and eruptive style of planetary volcanoes," said Erik Hauri, a geochemist with the Carnegie Institution of Washington and lead author of the study. "I can conceive of no sample type that would be more important to return to Earth than these volcanic glass samples ejected by explosive volcanism, which have been mapped not only on the moon but throughout the inner solar system."In contrast to most volcanic deposits, the lunar melt inclusions are encased in crystals that prevent the escape of water and other volatiles during eruption."These samples provide the best window we have on the amount of water in the interior of the moon where the orange glass came from," said science team member James Van Orman of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland.In a 2008 study led by Alberto Saal of Brown University in Providence, R.I., the same team reported the first evidence of water in lunar volcanic glasses. They used magma degassing models to estimate how much water was originally in the magmas before eruption.Building on that study, a Brown undergraduate student, Thomas Weinreich, searched for and found the melt inclusions. With that data, the team measured the pre-eruption concentration in the magma and estimated the amount of water in the moon's interior."The bottom line is that in 2008, we said the primitive water content in the lunar magmas should be similar to lavas coming from the Earth's depleted upper mantle," Saal said. "Now, we have proven that is indeed the case."The study also puts a new twist on the origin of water-ice detected in craters at the lunar poles by several recent NASA missions. The ice has been attributed to comet and meteor impacts, but the researchers believe it is possible that some of the ice came from water released by the eruption of lunar magmas eons ago.The paper entitled, "High Pre-Eruptive Water Contents Preserved in Lunar Melt Inclusions," was written by Hauri, Weinreich, Saal, Van Oman and Malcolm Rutherford of Brown. The research is funded by NASA's Lunar Advanced Science and Exploration Research and Cosmochemistry Programs in Washington, the NASA Lunar Science Institute (NLSI) at the agency's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif., and the Astrobiology Institute at Ames.The NLSI is a virtual organization enabling collaborative, interdisciplinary research in support of agency lunar science programs. The researchers are members of NLSI teams from the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio and Brown. The institute uses technology to bring scientists together around the world, and it is comprised of seven competitively selected U.S. teams and several international partners. NASA's Science Mission and Exploration Systems Mission Directorates in Washington fund the institute. Contacts and sources:Dwayne Brown NASA Headquarters, Washington  Cathy Weselby Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif.  Maria Martinez Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio  Richard Lewis Brown University, Providence, R.I. For more information about the NLSI, visit:lunarscience.nasa.gov Read more at Nano Patents and Innovations
monica1968   posted:5/27/2011 4:53:16 PM  (Reply)
I read in the article that thousands of particles were researched and among them they found 10 samples that contain water, and the samples were collected during the late 60s-early 70s, how much money did NASA spend on this monstrous waste of time billions no doubt, i would have thought that water molecules would be the last thing on the minds of the ones that authorised the collection of the samples, ie, who else is up there, or what of the many  anomolous structures that one may have stumbled across or why the moon reverberated when space debris was dropped on it, and countless other questions that havent been answered, or ever likely to be.
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 5:35:50 PM  (Reply)
if the water can be taken out of the structures and the pure titanium left over as a by-product, then we have water for crops and titanium that does not require purification [ as here on Earth ] that can be used to build space craft.  The inroad means the Moon can be colonized.  I have know that the third most abundant element in the rocks on the Moon's surface is titanium and it is a useful strong and light metal.  No need for purification will make it cheap and available, unlike here in our world. 
monica1968   posted:5/27/2011 6:00:20 PM  (Reply)
Cant imagine why anyone would want to live up there voluntarily, and how long will there be an abundance of titanium once the powers that be have scrabbled to get their hands on it, and exploit it before depletion, then lo and behold we will all be held to ransom financially i suspect it will be us the taxpayers who will pay for governements to have a stake in it, and i doubt very much any of it will be cheap, the initial costs of setting up such an operation will be phenomenal,  all paid for by us, and taxes on top of that, all this at a time when NASA is supposedly scaling down on operations into space, or so we are told maybe thats a red herring too, well whatever i suppose  SPACE 1999 springs to mind lol
monica1968   posted:5/27/2011 6:11:56 PM  (Reply)
I also think the moon was/is inhabited already, and i cant see them taking it too likely if we were to muscle in on their turf, sorry rocks, because if  we have only just realised what other species have obviously known  for years  didnt  Buzz Aldrin see othe  craft that wasnt of this earth, and i suppose they must have know about what the uses for  titanim and other elements that are up there
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 8:04:09 PM  (Reply)
it is our moon.
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 8:09:09 PM  (Reply)
I can envision the years to come when we have transported 10% of the air from earth and made it possible to farm the moon and produce the titanium products.  Generations of people watching farming on the moon with change the thinking of people regarding humans as a one world creature.  It will change who we are and open up what we will become.
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 10:55:24 PM  (Reply)
reocket fuel is made from oxygen and hydrogen taken from water.  fuel, titanium in it's pure form, air and crops for food.  We must colonize the Moon!
gary107   posted:5/27/2011 11:01:27 PM  (Reply)
there is no more Earth to develop and rather than fight over what is left down here, we can instead turn our energies and efforts upward and beyond.
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 2:21:40 AM  (Reply)
"soldiers of the Empire press on!" last words of famous Canadian General driving out the last American troops from Canada in 1812.
monica1968   posted:5/28/2011 7:39:45 AM  (Reply)
I understand what you are saying gary107, but wouldn,t efforts and resources be better used to sort this planet out before we go anywhere else to plunder the spoils like replanting the rainforests etc, and i am not quite sure that the moon belongs to us anyway as there is possible evidence to the contrary, as in the moon wasnt here until about a 100 000 years ago, it came into our area probably at the same time the asteroid belt was created, when there was some hulaballoo going on, also regarding possible ownership of the moon by the earthlings, we can't even agree on the simplest of things like stopping wars and hunger so how the hell would we negotiate who owns what on the moon, just a thought
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 9:08:49 AM  (Reply)
the rocks from the Moon are nearly the same 3.7 billions of years old as the rocks here on Earth.  Tides actions from the Moon have driven the development of life on Earth from the start.  We have put our flag on it, it is ours.  If the Moon was not there but for the last 100,000 years, then it has been placed there so we can develop a two world system.  Developing Two Worlds will in a positive way change the outlook of the human race.  Instead of looking up at a dead lunar surface people will see farming and building going on in another world that is no longer death white, but will have colours brown and green from growth and living human activity.  The atmosphere alone will change the appearence of the lunar surface.  It will left the perspective of human kind.  We need that now.  
monica1968   posted:5/28/2011 4:41:05 PM  (Reply)

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gary107  posted:5/28/2011 9:08:49 AM  (Reply)
the rocks from the Moon are nearly the same 3.7 billions of years old as the rocks here on Earth.  Tides actions from the Moon have driven the development of life on Earth from the start.  We have put our flag on it, it is ours.  If the Moon was not there but for the last 100,000 years, then it has been placed there so we can develop a two world system.  Developing Two Worlds will in a positive way change the outlook of the human race.  Instead of looking up at a dead lunar surface people will see farming and building going on in another world that is no longer death white, but will have colours brown and green from growth and living human activity.  The atmosphere alone will change the appearence of the lunar surface.  It will left the perspective of human kind.  We need that now.  
i really do agree with you in principal, but how can we transform the moon when earth is in such a mess, i dont think a few crops and a change of luna colour will change the majority mindset of  the human race, we cannot think of another project until this one [earth] is sorted out first, i also think it will create more wars as it would be as on earth right now, because it will be who owns what.... and until that mindset changes we will still be prisoners of the system.  The goverments must stop thinking of profits and start putting the world back together again....then there might be a chance of transforming the moon. 
monica1968   posted:5/28/2011 4:42:18 PM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:5/28/2011 4:41:05 PM  (Reply)
i really do agree with you in principal, but how can we transform the moon when earth is in such a mess, i dont think a few crops and a change of luna colour will change the majority mindset of  the human race, we cannot think of another project until this one [earth] is sorted out first, i also think it will create more wars as it would be as on earth right now, because it will be who owns what.... and until that mindset changes we will still be prisoners of the system.  The goverments must stop thinking of profits and start putting the world back together again....then there might be a chance of transforming the moon. 
for the greater good not the greater profit margin 
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 5:38:47 PM  (Reply)
Japanese Plan To Turn The Moon Into A Mirrorball: All Of Earth's Energy 'To Be Supplied By Lunar Ring Of Solar Panels'Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:07   By Daily Mail ReporterLast updated at 5:03 PM on 27th May 2011Dailymail Panels would be maintained by remotely-controlled robotsIt sounds like something out of science fiction - a huge swathe of the moon covered with solar panels to beam captured energy back to Earth.But plans to turn the moon into a gigantic mirrorball manned by robots to provide all the Earth's energy came a step closer to reality today when they were unveiled by Japanese scientists.The ambitious project would result in 13,000 terawatts of continuous solar energy being transmitted back to receiving stations on Earth, either by laser or microwave. Supplying the Earth with power: The ambitious plans would result in robot vehicles being used to construct the huge strip of panels to capture solar energy  Return: Astronauts would be required to get the work under way. Pictured is American Harrison Hagan Schmitt on the moon in 1972The plans were unveiled by Japanese construction giant Shimizu Corporation's research division, and would result in a 6,800 mile-long band stretching around the light side of the moon's equator.It would measure up to 248 miles in width and feature 12 mile-wide antennae to transmit the power.   The quest for finding alternate energy sources has been hastened in Japan in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear power station crisis sparked by the tsunami in March.No intended timeline for the project - which would result in the biggest public infrastructure installation ever constructed - has been announced.  The future of energy production? The strip of panels, up to 248 miles wide, will stretch 6,800 miles across the equator of the moon if the plan goes aheadJAPANESE PLAN SWITCH TO SOLARPoliticians in Japan are considering a plan to install solar panels on every public building in the country. They are set to announce the move at the upcoming G8 summit in France, where green energy generation will be high on the agenda.Prime Minister Naoto Kan is expected to tell his counterparts Japan intends to continue using its nuclear power stations, despite the Fukushima crisis. But he will also reveal plans to step-up renewable energy use in the technologically-advanced nation.But Shimizu Corporation said on its website: 'A shift from economical use of limited resources to the unlimited use of clean energy is the ultimate dream of all mankind.'The Luna Ring, our lunar solar power generation concept, translates this dream into reality through ingenious ideas coupled with advanced space technologies.'Virtually inexhaustible, non-polluting solar energy is the ultimate source of green energy that brings prosperity to nature as well as our lives.'Shimizu Corporation proposes the Luna Ring for the infinite coexistence of mankind and the Earth.'The firm claims the project would eliminate inefficiency due to bad weather and fulfil all of the world's energy needs.The plans call for astronauts to return to the moon and begin work with the help of robots that will be required to level the highly-cratered surface.It claims the soil on the moon can be used to make water, concrete, oxygen and ceramics necessary for the project.Construction of a railway system to convey materials for maintenance would also be a feature of the project. 
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 5:42:34 PM  (Reply)
>>Japanese Plan To Turn The Moon Into A Mirrorball: All Of Earth's Energy 'To Be Supplied By Lunar Ring Of Solar Panels'     <<                                From BEFORE IT'S NEWS
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 5:46:40 PM  (Reply)
From BEFORE IT'S NEWS there is a story on how the Japanese intend to turn large sections of the Moon into Solar Panelsthe article is interesting, they do not have to wait as we lag behind.  So sorry?
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 5:59:39 PM  (Reply)
the Japanese say they plan to place large arrays of solar panels on the Moon's surface, if we lag behind, then so sorry.
gary107   posted:5/28/2011 8:27:38 PM  (Reply)
the Japanese assert that they will build large solar panels farms on the Moon to generate energy.


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