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jchristopher5   posted:6/15/2011 2:03:36 PM  (Reply)
First post, I hope to learn a lot from this forum.  I am intently interested in this subject.I am sure it has been discussed on here, but apparently the DoD reported "missing" $1.1 trillion from the 2000 defense budget. This was reported several years ago.   It was also referenced on this very website, in a recent article.http://www.cmkxsting.com/us-treasury-missing-trillions/ How could this happen? Now, here is where it gets wierd for some. There have been solid reports for years, largely ignored by the mass media, that the US has a clandestine space program. For example, it has been reported that Ben Rich, who once headed up Skunkworks (Lockhead Aircraft's defense division) admitted to this in his deathbed confession. He said that we have reverse engineered UFO technology, and have the capabity to fly to the stars today, and that we are doing so. I realize it is bizarre, but read this link. http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/08/ufo-are-real-ben-rich-lockheed-skunk.html Another specific sinkhole for this sort of money is the exploration of Mars. It was recently reported that you could see an apparently artificial "bio station" on Mars, using Google earth. Curiously, since this has been reported the coordinates have been removed and no longer exist. Please see the attached article. Maybe it isn't ours, but it does seem to be artificial. Add to that the well documented glass tubes on the surface of the planet and a lot of questions are raised. So, if its not ours.... the whose is it?http://paranormalutopia.com/2011/06/mars-bio-station-coverup611/ Disregarding the specifics, a clandestine space program of any sort of scale would take money to fund. It would come from the DoD's so called black budget. Could the possible existance of this secret program be draining trillions from the US treasury over the last few decades? I said it was bizarre, but there has to be a bizare answer on how over $1 trillion could be missing, from the year 2000 alone. I know some of you think I must be cooking meth or something. The truth is that I just know in my heart, from studying this, something big is going on, and the truth is being kept from us. There is so much evidence in the form of testimony from hundreds of people, including former astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell. Regardless of where it went, we deserve an answer as to how we could have lost $1.1 trillion!  
wavygravy7   posted:6/16/2011 10:10:04 AM  (Reply)
I belive that there is a "secret space program".From what I understand we work with aliens and have bases on the moon and mars.For most americans this is crazy nonsense.Its one of my favorite subjects.I can't tell you how I know this is true,but it isn't from reading stuff on the net about it.If you think about it,this is the biggest secret of all..........
spiritech0   posted:6/16/2011 10:34:19 AM  (Reply)
The key to keeping your cool is realizing that money is a lie. The space programs have little to do with the Federal Reserve and the World Bank frustrating the people who think they can't survive without money. It's a combination of materials that take one from point A to point B, not "money".Watch "Chariots of the Gods", consider the "first" automobile and DaVinci's machines; compare the what and when of the Wright Bros to US Civil War balloons and the submarine used then to this latest insult:http://www.gizmag.com/flynano-microlight-aircraft/18411/... and think about why we've never gone back to the Moon since the "last time". Of course there's a "clandestine" space program, JC5... but only those who can turn the garbage we have to work with into a working spaceship get in on it. Don't let economics get to you like the Hollywood amusement it is. Get up there!
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 11:55:00 AM  (Reply)
I too know for a fact that reverse engineering or back engineering had been going on sinse the late 80s that i know of.....and maybe longer... but i will not go into it here....i was talking to someone over the weekend about this very subject and my internet went down for the rest of the day and my phone lines were really weird....one minute the tone was engaged even though i hadnt finished punching the numbers in or the line was just plain open...so i couldnt get a call out...my isp coudlnt find any problem it was just one of those things..yeah right   and as for the moon being a base well it reverberated for 3hrs when something was dropped down onto it...like a bell....and as for bases on mars...read the mars records by micheal and stephanie relfe...also the pyramids up there should give us a clue...and as for money...that too is the biggest con of humanity....if you sit and work it out nothing you think you own you do...it is all theirs...the powers that be who run this planet....and will be continued to be enslaved by them until enough of us can stop it...its happening in the middle east and coming to a country near you soon...with any luck
spiritech0   posted:6/16/2011 12:28:37 PM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:6/16/2011 11:55:00 AM  (Reply)
I too know for a fact that reverse engineering or back engineering had been going on sinse the late 80s that i know of.....and maybe longer... but i will not go into it here....i was talking to someone over the weekend about this very subject and my internet went down for the rest of the day and my phone lines were really weird....one minute the tone was engaged even though i hadnt finished punching the numbers in or the line was just plain open...so i couldnt get a call out...my isp coudlnt find any problem it was just one of those things..yeah right   and as for the moon being a base well it reverberated for 3hrs when something was dropped down onto it...like a bell....and as for bases on mars...read the mars records by micheal and stephanie relfe...also the pyramids up there should give us a clue...and as for money...that too is the biggest con of humanity....if you sit and work it out nothing you think you own you do...it is all theirs...the powers that be who run this planet....and will be continued to be enslaved by them until enough of us can stop it...its happening in the middle east and coming to a country near you soon...with any luck
Just say no to bleak.  And say yes to ingenuity. If there's incredible evil and injustice, then there's incredible good and justice in the universe. Right now, that means you. "Think happy thoughts."
stormmey   posted:6/16/2011 12:40:10 PM  (Reply)
I watched david wilkocks a few days back and he ended his lesson with think happy thoughts, in reference to as a whole , humanities ability to create with thought is active in our world happenings. negative thoughts are killing even our earth. omg, those meds do help, taking herbal ones and they stop the trembles inside. for gleaming moments. the definition of insanity , is those who cannot comunicate with others.  still trying constantly. and those here are doing awesome.  off to work, peace...lol  )
jchristopher5   posted:6/16/2011 1:01:19 PM  (Reply)
Thanks for your responses.  I am a little old to be getting into this phenomenon (49), and have only been intently interested for about a year.  I have always enjoyed good SiFi, but about a year ago I started having dreams about this stuff, and my interest has never wained since.Specifically my dreams have been about UFOs that seem so real, that I have to almost believe I may have had something wiped from my conscious memory.  I do remember losing about 45 minutes of time one afternoon when taking a walk.  The path took exactly an hour and when I was done, it has been 1:45.  I have never been able to explain that.  I have also had dreams and visions about bases on the moon.  The mass media just ignores this stuff.I talk to most people about this and  they think I am crazy.  I am firmly convinced that Roswell happened as an extraterrestrial event.  I believe that ET has been here for thousands of years, and quite possibly seeded the human race.  Most of all, I think our governement has lied and deceived us over and over again.  How do we get to the truth here?
stormmey   posted:6/16/2011 1:13:00 PM  (Reply)
i had to come right back online i knew youd be here, ya know chris im 48 soon and this stuff just exploded in my world and my first need was to learn about disclosure and why hasnt it come! well its infinity answers we need, would we even believe the governing if they disclosed, would that be a lie.... monicas writings fill my urgent needs of getting grounded, she expressess that she accepts that she's had things happen and the fact is, she's always returned. she says trust your instict first of all that helps me. so claiming my own answers and others is my disclosure to myself now.... good luck  stay open to yourself, respect and all....
jchristopher5   posted:6/16/2011 2:07:18 PM  (Reply)
Stormmey, thanks for the response again.Where can I go to read Monica's writings?  This forum or elsewhere? 
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 2:36:11 PM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:6/16/2011 12:28:37 PM  (Reply)
Just say no to bleak.  And say yes to ingenuity. If there's incredible evil and injustice, then there's incredible good and justice in the universe. Right now, that means you. "Think happy thoughts."
three cheers for spiritech0 couldnt agree more, imagine what fun we all could have if we bandied together, the goverments wouldnt know what hit them, once the rule of divide and conquer is overcome they would be the ones running for the hills, here's hoping
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 2:47:15 PM  (Reply)

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jchristopher5  posted:6/16/2011 1:01:19 PM  (Reply)
Thanks for your responses.  I am a little old to be getting into this phenomenon (49), and have only been intently interested for about a year.  I have always enjoyed good SiFi, but about a year ago I started having dreams about this stuff, and my interest has never wained since.Specifically my dreams have been about UFOs that seem so real, that I have to almost believe I may have had something wiped from my conscious memory.  I do remember losing about 45 minutes of time one afternoon when taking a walk.  The path took exactly an hour and when I was done, it has been 1:45.  I have never been able to explain that.  I have also had dreams and visions about bases on the moon.  The mass media just ignores this stuff.I talk to most people about this and  they think I am crazy.  I am firmly convinced that Roswell happened as an extraterrestrial event.  I believe that ET has been here for thousands of years, and quite possibly seeded the human race.  Most of all, I think our governement has lied and deceived us over and over again.  How do we get to the truth here?
you sound far from crazy, the dreams about the moon are probably real too as i found mine to be....last year i too found out that not only me but my mother are/have been lifetime abductees, i am 43 not much younger than you...i was never into sci-fi ever...i fact i couldnt stand it...especially the likes of star trek, and whilst i am still not what you would deem a trekkie i am now more open to these sort of programs as amongst all the bull there are nuggets of information and truths albeit half truth, i also have had 3 episodes of missing time, and as for wiping memories that too is a classic of this particular genre....ps 49 is not old, and maybe your subconcious kept things suppressed until the time was right...as in having the life skills and maturity to deal with this type of thing 
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 2:55:52 PM  (Reply)

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jchristopher5  posted:6/16/2011 2:07:18 PM  (Reply)
Stormmey, thanks for the response again.Where can I go to read Monica's writings?  This forum or elsewhere? 
 hiya monica here you can find my posts just click on my name ubove and it will take you to what i have written, especially the awakening to alien abduction, its a bit long but you may see something that you can relate to, if you have any questions regarding this matter i will try to answer as honestly as i can
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 2:56:51 PM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:6/16/2011 2:55:52 PM  (Reply)
 hiya monica here you can find my posts just click on my name ubove and it will take you to what i have written, especially the awakening to alien abduction, its a bit long but you may see something that you can relate to, if you have any questions regarding this matter i will try to answer as honestly as i can
/above 
monica1968   posted:6/16/2011 4:04:02 PM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:6/16/2011 2:56:51 PM  (Reply)
/above 
another ps, i put the words honestly as i can, meaning i do not want to promote any fear its the last thing i want to do, and there are things that have happened which are not just personal they can be downright frightening, so i appologise if any responses are a bit reserved 
spiritech0   posted:6/17/2011 12:52:42 AM  (Reply)
JC5, John freakin' Glenn flew on the Space Shuttle Discovery back in 10/29/1998 at age 77..! George Bush Senior celebrated his 85th birthday skydiving, and that was 2009. There is no such thing as "too old for this paranormal sh1t", sir. I encourage you to grab some low-tech investigative gear and get your answers.
jchristopher5   posted:6/17/2011 8:36:43 AM  (Reply)
Thanks.  Guys, its not that I think 49 is ancient.  I was just trying to make the point that I spent 48 years not thinking about UFOs, and it hit me like a freight train.  Now I am obsessed with finding answers.Like many of you, I dream of making an important discovery that, once and for all, can eliminate any doubts from the doubters.
spiritech0   posted:6/17/2011 10:23:24 AM  (Reply)
We're in this together, JC5.
monica1968   posted:6/17/2011 11:31:47 AM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:6/17/2011 10:23:24 AM  (Reply)
We're in this together, JC5.
 you are so right again
Hunterred   posted:6/17/2011 1:11:02 PM  (Reply)

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jchristopher5  posted:6/16/2011 1:01:19 PM  (Reply)
Thanks for your responses.  I am a little old to be getting into this phenomenon (49), and have only been intently interested for about a year.  I have always enjoyed good SiFi, but about a year ago I started having dreams about this stuff, and my interest has never wained since.Specifically my dreams have been about UFOs that seem so real, that I have to almost believe I may have had something wiped from my conscious memory.  I do remember losing about 45 minutes of time one afternoon when taking a walk.  The path took exactly an hour and when I was done, it has been 1:45.  I have never been able to explain that.  I have also had dreams and visions about bases on the moon.  The mass media just ignores this stuff.I talk to most people about this and  they think I am crazy.  I am firmly convinced that Roswell happened as an extraterrestrial event.  I believe that ET has been here for thousands of years, and quite possibly seeded the human race.  Most of all, I think our governement has lied and deceived us over and over again.  How do we get to the truth here?
J,christopher, Lets not bring age into this, LOL, I'm 43 myself, not far behind you and I have had a general interest in this sort of topic since I was a child. So, I have, more or less been a student of ufology for more than 30 years and myself dealing with the "dreams" and "experiences" that I have personally have had to weed out over the years. These sort of stories have been floating around for years. Before the advent of the internet it was magazines like FATE and UFO Magazine and books written by knowledgable people that have worked for NASA, Defense Contractors and the such, but as the internet grew so did the explosion of information and I believe that the truth is out there and I await the day that is is confirmed openly and publicly.L
Hunterred   posted:6/17/2011 1:12:24 PM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:6/17/2011 10:23:24 AM  (Reply)
We're in this together, JC5.
Absolutely.


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