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jeff   posted:3/24/2011 7:49:45 AM  (Reply)
Mankind's ability to believe is one of the most sought after resources in the entire universe. Enjoy, my friends. 
Swamptick   posted:3/24/2011 8:28:55 AM  (Reply)
The truth is out there.
Swamptick   posted:3/24/2011 8:29:06 AM  (Reply)
The truth is IN here!  
spiritech0   posted:3/24/2011 10:12:17 AM  (Reply)
Ah, it's "The Facts As They Are" versus "The Truth As I See It."... Cool.Anywho, yeah... Tell your Gojira wannabes that the wisdom to beleive and the intelligence to know are both mortal concepts and should not be the concern of creatures too cowardly to stay dead. ...or something.
jeff   posted:3/24/2011 11:15:36 AM  (Reply)
It's a fun video! Awesome Inception music, along with its hidden 'F*ck You' themed-ending. 
tapuout4985   posted:3/24/2011 2:35:41 PM  (Reply)
 I don't remember who it was that first made this argument, but since the first time I heard it I've been using the same one.  The first part of the argument is about life on other planets.  He said that the Universe is more than 6 billion years old.  For the most part all stars and planets would be of comparable age to the Earth when looked at from a geologic standpoint.  The first life-forms appeared on Earth approximately 3 billion years ago, but since then there have been 5 major extinction events that have all but reset the evolutionary process.  Imagine then, if you will, an alien planet just as old as Earth.  A planet that developed at about the same rate and had life on that planet starting 3 billion years ago.  Now imagine that planet never having a mass extinction event.  No resetting of the evolutionary process.  What wonders of technology would we have if humanity were millions or billions of years old instead of hundreds of thousands of years old.  The argument goes on to say that using the above argument there must be hundreds or thousands of civilizations in the universe nearly infinitely more advanced than humanity.  They would have had the ability to travel throughout the universe through means inconceivable to us.  If that is true, what are they waiting for?  If they have found us, then what do they wait for?  Well, they wait for us to come to them.  An advanced alien race capable of universal travel would know that approaching the Earth as it is now would cause a planet wide panic.  Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!  Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes.  The dead rising from the grave!  Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!  All right, you get the point.However, if they wait until we reach a level of technology where we are capable of colonizing other planets, our society will have advanced to a point where the presence of alien life-forms will no longer be so offensive to the population.  Therefore they circle the Earth and observe our society and technology waiting for the right time to make first contact.  Abductions, crashes, sightings, and so on are all the result of these alien races making mistakes or going rogue, becoming impatient.  The closer we get to the technology level they want for us the more they want to make contact.What do you think?
gary107   posted:4/4/2011 11:12:29 AM  (Reply)
If mankind's ability to believe is one of the most sought after resources in the galaxy, then why is it so prized?  By giving us five digits on each hand instead of six is there an effort to slow the rate of our development?  In base 10 the prime numbers appear random, but in base 12 the primes appear to have two number strings that have alternating set patterns to them.  If we are being FARM, then there would be visits to determine when it is time to harvest the crops.  To what end are we being developed?  I have talked with our American soldiers who returned from the SE Asia war and I realize the hell we have put them through.  I can only imagen what such experiences might do to the structure of a collective mind.  It is possible that at one point we become useful to them where we fight their conflicts so that they do not have to experience them.  Damage to individuals who are not "connected" would be different than damage that might be suffered by a collective whole society.  As the 19th century writer Charles Forte suggests the Earth is owned property and all others must stay away.
gary107   posted:4/4/2011 11:16:12 AM  (Reply)
So who owns us is the central question.
gary107   posted:4/4/2011 11:33:48 AM  (Reply)
Can our stay here on Earth be the result of a mining operation dispute that occurred on Mars eons ago?  Are we a type of creatures who are "on strike?"
spiritech0   posted:4/5/2011 2:04:16 PM  (Reply)
I propose that we're creatures perpetually being struck - with only the magic wand of Holly Wood to misinform us on how to strike back.
gary107   posted:4/5/2011 2:18:35 PM  (Reply)
Charles Forte lived before Hollywood became what it is today.  Hollywood lives off of reports from people who enjoy reading his detailed findings.  He invented the concept of the paranormal.  Both my maternal grand parents worked at MGM in Culver City, they knew what actors and script writers are all about.  Actors are people who make a living off of pretending to be real people.  Hollywood is a factory of make believe.
spiritech0   posted:4/5/2011 4:45:39 PM  (Reply)
And boy do I like slaving to give them money to keep me slaving, sir. Thanks for the lead.
jeff   posted:4/6/2011 3:31:05 AM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:3/24/2011 2:35:41 PM  (Reply)
 I don't remember who it was that first made this argument, but since the first time I heard it I've been using the same one.  The first part of the argument is about life on other planets.  He said that the Universe is more than 6 billion years old.  For the most part all stars and planets would be of comparable age to the Earth when looked at from a geologic standpoint.  The first life-forms appeared on Earth approximately 3 billion years ago, but since then there have been 5 major extinction events that have all but reset the evolutionary process.  Imagine then, if you will, an alien planet just as old as Earth.  A planet that developed at about the same rate and had life on that planet starting 3 billion years ago.  Now imagine that planet never having a mass extinction event.  No resetting of the evolutionary process.  What wonders of technology would we have if humanity were millions or billions of years old instead of hundreds of thousands of years old.  The argument goes on to say that using the above argument there must be hundreds or thousands of civilizations in the universe nearly infinitely more advanced than humanity.  They would have had the ability to travel throughout the universe through means inconceivable to us.  If that is true, what are they waiting for?  If they have found us, then what do they wait for?  Well, they wait for us to come to them.  An advanced alien race capable of universal travel would know that approaching the Earth as it is now would cause a planet wide panic.  Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!  Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes.  The dead rising from the grave!  Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!  All right, you get the point.However, if they wait until we reach a level of technology where we are capable of colonizing other planets, our society will have advanced to a point where the presence of alien life-forms will no longer be so offensive to the population.  Therefore they circle the Earth and observe our society and technology waiting for the right time to make first contact.  Abductions, crashes, sightings, and so on are all the result of these alien races making mistakes or going rogue, becoming impatient.  The closer we get to the technology level they want for us the more they want to make contact.What do you think?
 Imagine us doing the same after discovering a tribe on some remote island. If we did the same, we may be left waiting for a very, very, very long time. In such a case, they may never contact us directly.
narxes   posted:4/6/2011 5:19:12 AM  (Reply)
IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANY MORE. << concider it done.
tapuout4985   posted:4/6/2011 1:15:26 PM  (Reply)

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jeff  posted:4/6/2011 3:31:05 AM  (Reply)
 Imagine us doing the same after discovering a tribe on some remote island. If we did the same, we may be left waiting for a very, very, very long time. In such a case, they may never contact us directly.
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/uncontacted-amazon-tribe-video_n_818621.htmlExactly.  The article above talks about the uncontacted tribes still living in the Amazon.  People are trying to protect them from the "evils of civlization" and want them to remain uncontacted.  Unless they come out of the jungle to meet us they may never have contact with an outside civilization, with the exception of some strange flying machine passing over head from time to time.
gary107   posted:4/7/2011 12:16:53 PM  (Reply)
Perhaps, we are planted ahead of real slow moving large transports so we with our five digits can develope a world in such a way that those with six digits hands can land in a developed location.  What do they do with us when we are no longer needed in this world?  An end to all pain and suffering and all our labours?  We are "rewarded" with eternal peace as we go to rest with our fathers before us?  This could be interesting.  With only 5 digits we can not interface with machines and technology built for six digit folks.  Remember the "control panels" they showed in that Roswell alien autopsy film years ago?  What if they were interface devices instead of control panels?  Perhaps, our end is near?  Have a nice day.


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