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luvdase   posted:5/19/2008 12:58:54 PM  (Reply)
My personal belief about hell is that if you create it then you will wear it at some point. I do believe in repentance and forgiveness but repentance means that you have or at least are willing to learn from your creation. It doesn't always have to be,but can be a very long process.
harper   posted:9/23/2008 5:08:05 AM  (Reply)
Bahumbug, but seriosly folks, have you ever seen god? or jesus?
Wanna_Believe_3   posted:2/27/2009 1:34:41 PM  (Reply)
You make your own hell here on earth.
Shadow of Man   posted:4/2/2010 3:22:51 PM  (Reply)
What's the difference between Heaven and Hell, other than two letters? Nothing, another fictional story created to put fear into the masses, "Be obedient or your going straight to...". I do believe there are dark or negative places, but not this realm of "fallen angels" where disobedient souls go who don't obey the rules of Organized Religion. 
Hunter762   posted:4/2/2010 6:52:31 PM  (Reply)
All religions talk of an after life and how you live determins where you end up.  I think it is impossible to know for sure if there is a heaven or hell.  I guess it is all what you make of it.
macros72   posted:4/3/2010 5:04:40 AM  (Reply)
When one passes on from this life their being is tarnished by their earth existence.  So to have been cruel, ignorant all your life etc will attract you to a similar experience where you remain unitl you face up to the wrongs you did.  Here there is not fire and brimstone but a reality full of like people.  You cannot escape noticing the wrongs in these people and ultimately you realise the same in you.  This form of hell is coloured by what you take with you.There is no Devil sat judging and torturing these poor souls.  I think the Devil is a archetype of the living world that represents temptations and wrongs.  These are my ideas on this subject and are not meant to insult anyone with religious following.Peace.   
steriddler   posted:4/5/2010 9:30:51 AM  (Reply)

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harper  posted:9/23/2008 5:08:05 AM  (Reply)
Bahumbug, but seriosly folks, have you ever seen god? or jesus?
But some have thru the age's
steriddler   posted:4/5/2010 9:33:29 AM  (Reply)

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Shadow of Man  posted:4/2/2010 3:22:51 PM  (Reply)
What's the difference between Heaven and Hell, other than two letters? Nothing, another fictional story created to put fear into the masses, "Be obedient or your going straight to...". I do believe there are dark or negative places, but not this realm of "fallen angels" where disobedient souls go who don't obey the rules of Organized Religion. 
Heaven is a place where all things are governed and hell is as jesus best discribed it has being like a rubbish tip.
steriddler   posted:4/5/2010 9:43:39 AM  (Reply)

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Hunter762  posted:4/2/2010 6:52:31 PM  (Reply)
All religions talk of an after life and how you live determins where you end up.  I think it is impossible to know for sure if there is a heaven or hell.  I guess it is all what you make of it.
some intresting acounts on here. Worth a read even if you dont believe.http://www.near-death.com/
tapuout4985   posted:4/5/2010 1:53:01 PM  (Reply)
In 2007 I had a series of visions that came while meditating where a self illuminating being appeared to me and showed me places that I feel are best described as Heaven and Hell.  This person appeared as a man who must have stood something like 8 feet tall, he wore wore a silver robe over a white tunic and pants, he had long brown hair and a long dark beard, I don't remember what color his eyes were, but he had a large angular nose.  Other than the height I know that if I gave that description to a Christian they would say it was Jesus, and a Hindu may very well say it was Krishna.  This person never spoke to me but instead put a hand on my shoulder and with the other he gestured off into the distance with a sweep of his arm where a vision appeared in the sky.  It was like looking through a window or portal of sorts.  This vision was of a place that was a series of large castle like structures that floated in a void, but were connected by a sort of highway system.  Inside of each of these structures was a complete world full of people, flora, fauna, etc.  Each world was different but was perfect, like looking at all the different versions of Utopia imagined.  Then the being turned me around and behind me was a mountain slope of molten rock leading up to where we were and then continuing up to a platform the was an intersection of roads that lead to the different worlds.  Climbing this slope were people with great burdens upon there backs.  Their feet had been burned and deformed by the lava and appeared porcine, and the higher they climbed the steeper the slope became until suddenly they would lose footing and slide back down the mountain to have to start again.  I did feel that the bundles of weight upon their backs were their sin, the physical representation of the evil they had commited in life.  I also felt that it was possible for them to reach the paradise that was above us if only they could shed the burden of their sins.  I had this vision several times, always similar but never the exact same.  Once I had the vision and I was one of the people climbing the mountain and the burden of my sin weighed me down till I was crawling toward paradise on my hands and knees.  Every time I had the vision it was incredibly real, perfect in how it looked, felt, smelled (unfortunately do to my own burning flesh), and in how much detail was in the vision, almost like I had been transported somewhere and was physically there.
opensky   posted:4/6/2010 9:10:51 AM  (Reply)
We are spiritual creatures living in a physical bodies. The spirit world is where we come from. Your spirit vibrates on a much higher frequency than we do in these slow cumbersome bodies trapped on this earthly domain.A creator yes!A son of god, a devil, hell, heaven, NO!These are all manmade fantasies to keep us scared and in the grasp of the church, especially christianty.Believe in yourself. You have the power in you of good and evil and choose which you allow to come out.Religion and all it's lies are one of the biggest con stories ever concocted in the history of mankind.Look at it this way. What ever religion you follow cannot be 100% correct no matter how much you believe it to be.This would make all other religions completely wrong and that is just plain impossible.Just be happy there is the other side and we live on as spirit energy forever. 
wvboarder   posted:4/6/2010 9:12:14 PM  (Reply)

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luvdase  posted:5/19/2008 12:58:54 PM  (Reply)
My personal belief about hell is that if you create it then you will wear it at some point. I do believe in repentance and forgiveness but repentance means that you have or at least are willing to learn from your creation. It doesn't always have to be,but can be a very long process.
My beliefs go with this way of thinking. I believe in a supreme being but I think that every culture and religion just have a different way of viewing the same "God" Our lives and our realities are what we make of it. I like to call it the "acid theory" (around the right group). Its like a trip, It can be amazingly enlightening or your own personal hell . But either way your ultimately in control of what happens(positive or negative) and what you take away from it in the end. I also believe the ultimate balance that must be achieved through karma and positive and negative forces.Ive read the full bible and many other religious documents as well as many different views of others on this subject.  Ive lived my life through this way of thinking and have been very happy with the results of my effort in life.- I believe that FAITH and GOODWILL matters no matter what ultimate religion or path you follow. Its heartbreaking in my eyes that most youth of today continues to seperate their life from their faith, with the numbers doing this continue to rise every year if not every day.Good Vibes To All- I love reading everyones oppinion. Im glad that people on this site are willing to listen and read others views without turning into a forum battle like a bunch of kids. Very enlightening that some people can be humane with these subjects! PeaceP.-wvboarder
mysticaura   posted:9/24/2010 1:41:55 AM  (Reply)
There is no hell. Hell is what we make it. I know everyones heard that before but its true. I believe that people who claim to have gone to hell and come back are experiecing what I like to call the "under world". That is where peoples negative thoughts and made up 'boogy man",and nightmares are.Cought in some dimension that is really here. Peoples diffenition of hell is what was told to them through out centuries of bull shit and made to make us believe to fallow the "way" of the "true path". Hell is a thought projection in ones mind and if you really believe then to you there is a hell. (but theres not). Like if you believe in good then good will happen. If you believe in bad or evil then sooner or later it will happen. Hell is not a place it is here allready. People created hell. God the Creater would not send us to hell. For those out there that have commited a very seriouse crime or close to it or who have turned away from God--hell is coming back to this earth and earthly bodies to live another life with out spirit giudes or angels to help them. God lets them fend for them selves so to speak and hopefully find the right path during that life and when they do God will be there. (I dont want to say that God is not there or his angles but he steps back to let them learn thier lesson) If that makes more sense. To me hell is what you make it.
jasmi   posted:9/24/2010 3:40:28 AM  (Reply)
I believe that our lives on this earth is hell. Heaven is another plane we will go to (well, our soul will) once we have reincarnated enough times that we have worked out our karma.
Vedic Scientist   posted:9/29/2010 3:54:44 PM  (Reply)

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Wanna_Believe_3  posted:2/27/2009 1:34:41 PM  (Reply)
You make your own hell here on earth.
Heaven or Hell is what a person makes himself. There is no heaven or hell after death. some religious leaders just want people to live a programed life talking about some judgement day. you do good karma you get good results. you do bad karma you get bad results. its like a mathmatical equation a (-b)=c . a=good deeds b=bad deeds c = the cummulative result .
gemini663181   posted:10/1/2010 2:02:37 PM  (Reply)
These are all very interesting beliefs, I wonder who is right???? Those who have had N.D.E. might know best but who knows for sure!!!!!
mysticaura   posted:10/3/2010 4:25:03 AM  (Reply)

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jasmi  posted:9/24/2010 3:40:28 AM  (Reply)
I believe that our lives on this earth is hell. Heaven is another plane we will go to (well, our soul will) once we have reincarnated enough times that we have worked out our karma.
I think along the same lines as this also. We choose to incarnate for some reason or other to learn a lifes leason and grow stronger and closer to God. This life is our hell,our lifes learning leasons we choose to learn from for growth. Heaven is here also but in a different demension only a reach away. When we have lived our life and accomplished what we want to learn from we go "home" heaven. We incarnate many times for many reasons to learn many lifes leasons.
jeff   posted:10/6/2010 6:03:31 AM  (Reply)
f). "The System" is not real; it was dreamt up in the imagination of the Grand Architect of "The System". It has no LIFE, no substance, and can only appear to exist through the use of and destruction to LIFE and through the enslavement of men and women to maintain it. It is dead and cannot maintain or reproduce itself and has no gifts for LIFE. It needs some to have power over others, to be able to wield authority over those who reject "The System" and whose intention is to live outside "The System", because, if everyone decided to live outside "The System", there would be no system (no illusion). "The System" is an artificial world, a fairytale, superimposed over the real world of LIFE and is the cancer destroying LIFE at an ever increasing rate. Another name for "The System" is "HELL". See point 1 below, "The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian". All civilisations are of "The System", they are all apocalyptic by design and all collapse because they are not LIFE sustainable, making way for the latest model of civilisation to appear out of the wreckage of the last. ...Great article...continue reading here : loveforlife.com.au/content/10/09/03/overview-body-love-life-work-insights-created-arthur-fiona-cristian-october-2005-se
mysticaura   posted:11/6/2010 4:41:35 PM  (Reply)
Hmmm.... this is a vey deep subject because it touches base with all that has to do with life and creation. I found this VERY interesting and Realy makes you think about life in general. In some ways it also makes you rethink about life and how the world and society can just suck the life right out of you. You live,you breath,you learn, and you work your ass off. For what? For the government to just rule all that has to do with your whole being and life reasons. To control you in one way or other. Wheither it be work,family,food,and just plain living to servive. Some how in the process of life and creation it got lost or just plain changed in time. Skin color should not be and issue. We are all equal. Our level in the work field or where and how we live too. We should have alot more to say in happens in our "system". After all it is our life and our home. I can go on. What we do need to think about is what we can do to help this world a better place. It takes ALL THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE to make a difference. It can happen if we all can get our shit together and make it happen. We are all brothers and sisters and this world is our home!!!!
macros72   posted:11/6/2010 7:44:20 PM  (Reply)
Upon the end of life you review all you did here and then move onwards back to what you truly are. Those who focused on themselves without due care for others will pay a price in their personal development. After your review you may find the only door is to a place where others like you reside.  Here you will find a cold landscape filled with everything you where in your previous life.  Now its your turn to experience others doing to you what you did to them.


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