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Patrock   posted:10/27/2010 4:12:58 AM  (Reply)
Hello every one, i have been reading this story fromn phil schneider. it seems this guy knew a whole lot more about some secret stuff, and it also seems his information never came far out in the world(he has been murderd cous of his knowlege). i do take him sireus and all what he is telling in the video's, now i ask you guys please take some time to read some i see alot of connection to other Conspiracies like the NWO and black hellicopters prehaps you guys see it aswell.The link for the video's and text.      www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htmlA Lecture By Phil Schneider"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess. However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not."I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like these United States."To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a fire fight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six Secret Service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that fight. I was there."Number one: part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going to ask you to put your 'skepticals' on. But please, feel free to do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget"I love the country I am living in more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the Black Budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States."They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940s. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-levity trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D. architect*, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.(*Richard Souder ~ not to be confused with Richard Sauder, Ph.D., an underground bases researcher and author of the book, 'Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide'.")"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was lied to rather extensively.Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in Hyperspacial Technology"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. H e was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFOs fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds."Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with the theoreticians about the Philadelphia Experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. H e was hated in Germany. There was a $1 reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic ~ deep underground bases.The Fire Fight At Dulce Base"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Grenada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident."I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts."Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that."I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled Senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the railyards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy," not democracy ,and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are God-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.America's Black Program Contractors"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. the black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of stealth programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsubishi Industries, Ryder Trucks, Bechtel, I.G. Farben, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom-loving people? I don't believe so.Star Wars And Apparent Alien Threat"Still 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling." Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have sold us down the drain ~ lock, stock and barrel.Stealth Aircraft Technology Use By U.S. Agencies And The United States"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.The Guardians of Stealth And Delta Force Origins Of The Bosnia Conflict"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets. Number one: the Military Joint Tactical Force MJTF), sometimes called the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a multi-national tactical force primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed them away about six weeks ago to the United Nations. There have been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to actually start the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding administrations for political purposes.Thoughts On The Bombings In The United States"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some-odd varieties of chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There is only one weapon that can do that ~ a small nuclear weapon. That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York."However, I want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it. First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb. Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now it's 20,000. You can't put 20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Ryder Truck. Now, I've never mixed explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I worked on the Malta project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would not have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the building, but it would never have done that kind of damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.The Truth Behind The Republican Contract With America"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hoodwinked by so many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. the Contract With America: It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract With America is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.Some Statistics On The Black Helicopter Presence"The black helicopters. There are over 65,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business.Government Earthquake Device, AIDS As A Bio-Weapon Based On Alien Excretions"The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe earthquake in Japan, there was no pulse wave as in a normal earthquake. None. In 1898, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted science as we know it. Look at AIDS, invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972. It was a biological weapon to be used against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic Services, which, by the way, is still in operation to this day, through the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals, humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. These alien humanoids the government is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense against their germs ~ none. They are a biological weapon of terrible consequence. Every alien on the planet needs to be isolated."Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people with a similar biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No, we don't but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes to talk my head off. Eleven of my best friends in the last 22 years have been murdered. Eight of the murders were called "suicides."Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 58j3s and have probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this what it's going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the Internet about government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task. 
Patrock   posted:10/27/2010 4:14:42 AM  (Reply)
here the link again if the original dont work for you.http://www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htm
godlypunk   posted:10/27/2010 4:09:00 PM  (Reply)

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Patrock  posted:10/27/2010 4:12:58 AM  (Reply)
Hello every one, i have been reading this story fromn phil schneider. it seems this guy knew a whole lot more about some secret stuff, and it also seems his information never came far out in the world(he has been murderd cous of his knowlege). i do take him sireus and all what he is telling in the video's, now i ask you guys please take some time to read some i see alot of connection to other Conspiracies like the NWO and black hellicopters prehaps you guys see it aswell.The link for the video's and text.      www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htmlA Lecture By Phil Schneider"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess. However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not."I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like these United States."To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a fire fight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six Secret Service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that fight. I was there."Number one: part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going to ask you to put your 'skepticals' on. But please, feel free to do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget"I love the country I am living in more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the Black Budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States."They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940s. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-levity trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D. architect*, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.(*Richard Souder ~ not to be confused with Richard Sauder, Ph.D., an underground bases researcher and author of the book, 'Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide'.")"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was lied to rather extensively.Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in Hyperspacial Technology"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. H e was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFOs fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds."Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with the theoreticians about the Philadelphia Experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. H e was hated in Germany. There was a $1 reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic ~ deep underground bases.The Fire Fight At Dulce Base"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Grenada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident."I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts."Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that."I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled Senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the railyards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy," not democracy ,and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are God-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.America's Black Program Contractors"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. the black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of stealth programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsubishi Industries, Ryder Trucks, Bechtel, I.G. Farben, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom-loving people? I don't believe so.Star Wars And Apparent Alien Threat"Still 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling." Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have sold us down the drain ~ lock, stock and barrel.Stealth Aircraft Technology Use By U.S. Agencies And The United States"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.The Guardians of Stealth And Delta Force Origins Of The Bosnia Conflict"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets. Number one: the Military Joint Tactical Force MJTF), sometimes called the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a multi-national tactical force primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed them away about six weeks ago to the United Nations. There have been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to actually start the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding administrations for political purposes.Thoughts On The Bombings In The United States"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some-odd varieties of chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There is only one weapon that can do that ~ a small nuclear weapon. That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York."However, I want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it. First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb. Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now it's 20,000. You can't put 20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Ryder Truck. Now, I've never mixed explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I worked on the Malta project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would not have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the building, but it would never have done that kind of damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.The Truth Behind The Republican Contract With America"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hoodwinked by so many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. the Contract With America: It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract With America is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.Some Statistics On The Black Helicopter Presence"The black helicopters. There are over 65,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business.Government Earthquake Device, AIDS As A Bio-Weapon Based On Alien Excretions"The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe earthquake in Japan, there was no pulse wave as in a normal earthquake. None. In 1898, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted science as we know it. Look at AIDS, invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972. It was a biological weapon to be used against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic Services, which, by the way, is still in operation to this day, through the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals, humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. These alien humanoids the government is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense against their germs ~ none. They are a biological weapon of terrible consequence. Every alien on the planet needs to be isolated."Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people with a similar biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No, we don't but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes to talk my head off. Eleven of my best friends in the last 22 years have been murdered. Eight of the murders were called "suicides."Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 58j3s and have probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this what it's going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the Internet about government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task. 
Considering what we are witnessing right now Politically in this country, (the likes of which we have never seen before) it is not at all surprising.
DeadStarState   posted:10/28/2010 1:06:31 AM  (Reply)
There used to be actual video footage of this on youtube but they keep being deleted when I find a reposted one. They also used to have actual interviews with this gentleman on there, but those too seem to keep disappearing as well.
Patrock   posted:10/28/2010 3:52:20 AM  (Reply)
yes they do keep deleting alot of stuff from this guy. its good some of it still is around thanks to reposts from poeple. its to bad not more of those goverment poeple come out with more information. but i guess because he had cancer, he was gona die any way so that was probably part of his motivation too do this.
tapuout4985   posted:10/28/2010 12:37:55 PM  (Reply)
I'm sure there is some truth to what he is saying, but a lot of what he talks about sounds like it came straight out of his ass.  He talks about the rate at which military technology increases; well, I held a secret clearence in the Navy and the tech I was working with was mid-1950's at best and the most advanced tech I ever saw was late 90's at best.  I don't think there was a system on the entire ship I was stationed on that could even compete with my gaming laptop.  He also talks about nitrate bombs not being able to do the damage that was seen at the Oklahoma City Federal building, that is definitely untrue.  I've experienced two nitrate explosions in my life time the first of which was over 30 miles away and my house took damage from the shockwave.  He doesn't mention which World Trade Center bombing he's talking about but it sounds like the '93 bombing.  That being the case there is no way that was a nuclear device of any size; even in the immediate area of the blast heat damage was at a minimum, the paint on nearby cars was barely even affected.  A nuclear device, even a tiny one, would have at the very least burned the paint off the vehicles; what damage there is appears to be the result of fire and not radient heat.  The way this guy talks he sounds to me like one of the many people who find it impossible to believe the horrible things we see in our world can be done by normal people through everyday means.  His inability to fathom that there is true evil in the world causes him to pull together random events, facts, rumors, and happenstance to create a delusion about a grand conspiracy and advanced technology being the only culprit behind the terrible things that happen to us. 
godlypunk   posted:10/28/2010 2:20:13 PM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:10/28/2010 12:37:55 PM  (Reply)
I'm sure there is some truth to what he is saying, but a lot of what he talks about sounds like it came straight out of his ass.  He talks about the rate at which military technology increases; well, I held a secret clearence in the Navy and the tech I was working with was mid-1950's at best and the most advanced tech I ever saw was late 90's at best.  I don't think there was a system on the entire ship I was stationed on that could even compete with my gaming laptop.  He also talks about nitrate bombs not being able to do the damage that was seen at the Oklahoma City Federal building, that is definitely untrue.  I've experienced two nitrate explosions in my life time the first of which was over 30 miles away and my house took damage from the shockwave.  He doesn't mention which World Trade Center bombing he's talking about but it sounds like the '93 bombing.  That being the case there is no way that was a nuclear device of any size; even in the immediate area of the blast heat damage was at a minimum, the paint on nearby cars was barely even affected.  A nuclear device, even a tiny one, would have at the very least burned the paint off the vehicles; what damage there is appears to be the result of fire and not radient heat.  The way this guy talks he sounds to me like one of the many people who find it impossible to believe the horrible things we see in our world can be done by normal people through everyday means.  His inability to fathom that there is true evil in the world causes him to pull together random events, facts, rumors, and happenstance to create a delusion about a grand conspiracy and advanced technology being the only culprit behind the terrible things that happen to us. 
If the S government is keeping this technology largly secret you wouldn't see it on a naval ship. It's my opinion they are not particularly concerned about our wars or the military, except for using them to test some of their gear now and then and puppeteering them for their own means to set a stage that is condusive to their larger agenda. This S government entity is largly different than the US government we think of.However you do make a convincing point regarding the Trade Center etc. 
tapuout4985   posted:10/28/2010 3:43:19 PM  (Reply)

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godlypunk  posted:10/28/2010 2:20:13 PM  (Reply)
If the S government is keeping this technology largly secret you wouldn't see it on a naval ship. It's my opinion they are not particularly concerned about our wars or the military, except for using them to test some of their gear now and then and puppeteering them for their own means to set a stage that is condusive to their larger agenda. This S government entity is largly different than the US government we think of.However you do make a convincing point regarding the Trade Center etc. 
No doubt that your basic military wouldn't experience any of the vast technologies talked about in the story, but I believe that in my time in I would have seen some evidence of this supposedly super advanced technology.  I believe the truth of the matter is that the military doesn't do it's own research but instead contracts out to civilian organizations for such work.  The military requests a certain result and the civilian researchers make it happen.  That being said corporations are going to do what they always have which is make money via any means available including the use of the technologies they discover while working for the military and therefore much of that technology would be spilling over into civilian markets.  Sure, military bugs are far more advanced than any spy gear you can find at Best Buy, but that is because civilians don't use bugs and the military does.  Same thing goes for tanks, fighter jets, armor, weapons, spy satellites, etc.  I go hunting with a gun designed in 1951 and it serves it's purpose perfectly; just because there are special forces guys running around out there with weapons that make my gun look like a toy doesn't make the government evil, it just means they have more reason to stay ahead of the curve than I do.  If I wake up tomorrow and find that deer have developed chobham armor and laser eyes I can tell you that hunting rifle technology will take a huge leap forward because it would have to.We live in a world where there are foreign governments who spy on us, target us for attacks, and use every means at their disposal to weaken us because everyone wants to be number one.  Does that mean everything the government has done and continues to do was necessary or right, no, but it does mean there are times when full disclosure is not the best option.  During the Cold War the main thought that kept the USSR and the USA from going to war wasn't the fear of what each knew the other had, but the fear of what they may have that we don't know about.  That time is over and I foresee a time approaching where full disclosure is the best means to keep peace, but until then the government will continue to do what it has always done because it is set in its ways and knows no other way of operating.
godlypunk   posted:10/28/2010 4:00:32 PM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:10/28/2010 3:43:19 PM  (Reply)
No doubt that your basic military wouldn't experience any of the vast technologies talked about in the story, but I believe that in my time in I would have seen some evidence of this supposedly super advanced technology.  I believe the truth of the matter is that the military doesn't do it's own research but instead contracts out to civilian organizations for such work.  The military requests a certain result and the civilian researchers make it happen.  That being said corporations are going to do what they always have which is make money via any means available including the use of the technologies they discover while working for the military and therefore much of that technology would be spilling over into civilian markets.  Sure, military bugs are far more advanced than any spy gear you can find at Best Buy, but that is because civilians don't use bugs and the military does.  Same thing goes for tanks, fighter jets, armor, weapons, spy satellites, etc.  I go hunting with a gun designed in 1951 and it serves it's purpose perfectly; just because there are special forces guys running around out there with weapons that make my gun look like a toy doesn't make the government evil, it just means they have more reason to stay ahead of the curve than I do.  If I wake up tomorrow and find that deer have developed chobham armor and laser eyes I can tell you that hunting rifle technology will take a huge leap forward because it would have to.We live in a world where there are foreign governments who spy on us, target us for attacks, and use every means at their disposal to weaken us because everyone wants to be number one.  Does that mean everything the government has done and continues to do was necessary or right, no, but it does mean there are times when full disclosure is not the best option.  During the Cold War the main thought that kept the USSR and the USA from going to war wasn't the fear of what each knew the other had, but the fear of what they may have that we don't know about.  That time is over and I foresee a time approaching where full disclosure is the best means to keep peace, but until then the government will continue to do what it has always done because it is set in its ways and knows no other way of operating.
I obviously have less faith in that entity than you. I also believe the reason for secrecy is important, it means all the difference. My opinion is that it's the reason for secrecy that smells here not the fact that they are keeping it.We have a right to know that someone is behind the door, unless the reason is to keep the sheep from becoming wolves.
tapuout4985   posted:10/28/2010 4:56:45 PM  (Reply)

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godlypunk  posted:10/28/2010 4:00:32 PM  (Reply)
I obviously have less faith in that entity than you. I also believe the reason for secrecy is important, it means all the difference. My opinion is that it's the reason for secrecy that smells here not the fact that they are keeping it.We have a right to know that someone is behind the door, unless the reason is to keep the sheep from becoming wolves.
I don't have faith in them to do the right thing, but I guess maybe I have faith in them to do the pragmatic thing.  I think the problem is that the American public can't be informed of something without the entire world finding out; so if you have something that you want to keep secret from Enemy No.1 you can't let Ally No. 1 know because the first thing he does is blab about it on the news.  Just look at how many US soldiers were wounded and killed because of embedded reporters during the invasion of Iraq.  These jounalists would get on live TV and say exactly who they were with, where they were at, and where they were going and then we find out that holy crap, you can get CNN and Fox News in Iraq and they have the tube on.  For the first few days in Iraq embedded reporters caused nearly an entire loss of strategic advantage for American forces just so the American people could feel like they were apart of the action and get the slight chance of seeing some poor Republican Guard get smoked by the 25mm main gun of a M2 Bradley.I'm as outraged as the next guy that the government keeps secrets from us and it angers me that I know they have all kinds of information on extraterrestrial life, remote viewing, advanced tech, supersoldier programs, so on and so forth, but I feel the reason for keeping these secrets is John Q. Public has proven time and time again he can't keep his trap shut when he is given info and he over reacts because he gets all emotional on the subject and stops thinking rationally.Keep in mind that in order for the government to disclose such information the general population would have to be able to control themselves afterward, but the American public has proven itself time and time again to be unable to do so.  The American public starts riots because of cops arresting drunk drivers or cops breaking up parties; the American public has the mentality that because the Lakers won the championship it's ok for us to start beating our neighbors and looting the local Wal-Mart.  We the people go to concerts and parades and decide that this time of celebration is a good time to gang rape teenage girls or stand by and do nothing while others do instead.The sad truth is that the Government is the parent, the public the petulant child, and the public as a whole has pissed away any chance of ever being treated like responsible adults.  It saddens me and angers me, but it is the Truth.  If we the people want our rights and privileges it's time to start acting like we are responsible enough to have them.
mysticaura   posted:10/28/2010 10:06:46 PM  (Reply)
Im going to have to find the time to read all this but what I have read is VERY interesting and makes me think about whats going on in our country,I will have to comment on this when I read it all.
Patrock   posted:10/29/2010 3:42:54 AM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:10/28/2010 4:56:45 PM  (Reply)
I don't have faith in them to do the right thing, but I guess maybe I have faith in them to do the pragmatic thing.  I think the problem is that the American public can't be informed of something without the entire world finding out; so if you have something that you want to keep secret from Enemy No.1 you can't let Ally No. 1 know because the first thing he does is blab about it on the news.  Just look at how many US soldiers were wounded and killed because of embedded reporters during the invasion of Iraq.  These jounalists would get on live TV and say exactly who they were with, where they were at, and where they were going and then we find out that holy crap, you can get CNN and Fox News in Iraq and they have the tube on.  For the first few days in Iraq embedded reporters caused nearly an entire loss of strategic advantage for American forces just so the American people could feel like they were apart of the action and get the slight chance of seeing some poor Republican Guard get smoked by the 25mm main gun of a M2 Bradley.I'm as outraged as the next guy that the government keeps secrets from us and it angers me that I know they have all kinds of information on extraterrestrial life, remote viewing, advanced tech, supersoldier programs, so on and so forth, but I feel the reason for keeping these secrets is John Q. Public has proven time and time again he can't keep his trap shut when he is given info and he over reacts because he gets all emotional on the subject and stops thinking rationally.Keep in mind that in order for the government to disclose such information the general population would have to be able to control themselves afterward, but the American public has proven itself time and time again to be unable to do so.  The American public starts riots because of cops arresting drunk drivers or cops breaking up parties; the American public has the mentality that because the Lakers won the championship it's ok for us to start beating our neighbors and looting the local Wal-Mart.  We the people go to concerts and parades and decide that this time of celebration is a good time to gang rape teenage girls or stand by and do nothing while others do instead.The sad truth is that the Government is the parent, the public the petulant child, and the public as a whole has pissed away any chance of ever being treated like responsible adults.  It saddens me and angers me, but it is the Truth.  If we the people want our rights and privileges it's time to start acting like we are responsible enough to have them.
I do agree on that one, it sure is true that some of us just arnt ready for all that change, and alot of us are. couse of a few that are not ready for that change its logical not to give them sutch information couse the system might collaps. to maintain control you must stay 1 step a head from what you are controlling in this case its the public.its like giving a 4 year old child a hand gun. at first it wont know what to do with it, once it knows what it can do. the child is unpredictable even if it listens to its parents. the child might cry and panic when the gun fires. or it can laugh and shoot at every thing. 
breeld1   posted:10/29/2010 6:04:12 AM  (Reply)
Tapuout: I feel exactly the same as you, but just couldn`t express it as eloquently as you did. You also brought up a few points that made me think.  Thanks for that.
godlypunk   posted:10/29/2010 12:12:13 PM  (Reply)
So the public is like a four year old child and the S government is the parent??? As far as current power this is true I suppose but beyond that I could not disagree more. Unless we are talking about an entity that is not supposed to be democratic in nature. So should we give the S Government a badge for taking such good care of us? I hope you are right, it would be really nice if you are...but I have some major doubts. Mainly because NOTHING they have been caught doing has ever been nice. The threats, the disappearances of common people who knew too much. ZIP!The "general public" will always over react no matter where in the world you go. Their reactions are their own. Someone will always behave irrationally somewhere. So if that is the reasoning then it will ALWAYS be a secret. And what a wonderful excuse. Kinda like calling a war on drugs.....it's great because it's an unwinnable war. So, it can go on and on and get more and more funding. A war on terrorism....again, an unwinnable war unless you institute martial law and move to a governing system that is not democratic. Take everyones guns etc.....someone will always act out.. The only way to remove it is to remove freedom. So, maybe that's what's going on here...they've removed our right to know in their war on stupidity.??? One war that IS winnable would be a war on ignorance but that's not going to happen as long as we are giving credit where it isn't due to the S government.Just my opinion.
godlypunk   posted:10/29/2010 12:18:57 PM  (Reply)
Just to add....I do NOT believe that we should do nothing regarding terrorism or drugs. But to say or think we will wipe it out is fiction. There has always been some form of it. But to call it a war implies there is a "win" in there somewhere, an end, and there isn't. It's like trying to eradicate bullies...you can't.
tapuout4985   posted:10/29/2010 11:27:44 PM  (Reply)

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godlypunk  posted:10/29/2010 12:12:13 PM  (Reply)
So the public is like a four year old child and the S government is the parent??? As far as current power this is true I suppose but beyond that I could not disagree more. Unless we are talking about an entity that is not supposed to be democratic in nature. So should we give the S Government a badge for taking such good care of us? I hope you are right, it would be really nice if you are...but I have some major doubts. Mainly because NOTHING they have been caught doing has ever been nice. The threats, the disappearances of common people who knew too much. ZIP!The "general public" will always over react no matter where in the world you go. Their reactions are their own. Someone will always behave irrationally somewhere. So if that is the reasoning then it will ALWAYS be a secret. And what a wonderful excuse. Kinda like calling a war on drugs.....it's great because it's an unwinnable war. So, it can go on and on and get more and more funding. A war on terrorism....again, an unwinnable war unless you institute martial law and move to a governing system that is not democratic. Take everyones guns etc.....someone will always act out.. The only way to remove it is to remove freedom. So, maybe that's what's going on here...they've removed our right to know in their war on stupidity.??? One war that IS winnable would be a war on ignorance but that's not going to happen as long as we are giving credit where it isn't due to the S government.Just my opinion.
The "general public" will always over react no matter where in the world you go. Their reactions are their own. Someone will always behave irrationally somewhere. So if that is the reasoning then it will ALWAYS be a secret. And what a wonderful excuse. Kinda like calling a war on drugs.....it's great because it's an unwinnable war. So, it can go on and on and get more and more funding. A war on terrorism....again, an unwinnable war unless you institute martial law and move to a governing system that is not democratic. Take everyones guns etc.....someone will always act out.. The only way to remove it is to remove freedom. So, maybe that's what's going on here...they've removed our right to know in their war on stupidity.??? One war that IS winnable would be a war on ignorance but that's not going to happen as long as we are giving credit where it isn't due to the S government.I couldn't agree more, but it's just that I find the vast majority of people claim ignorance (which can be rectified) when they are in fact stupid (which is unfixable.)It is inevitable for the people who go public with this information to turn up missing or dead because not only are they stepping on the powers-that-be's toes, but they are also putting a great many peoples lives in danger (the wikileaks dumbass is a perfect example of this.)  These people become so emotionally charged with the knowledge they have gained that all sense and reasoning leaves them; the result being a great many powerful men and women feel threatened and are placed in a defensive position where they lash out in extreme, immoral, and ill-advised ways.
tapuout4985   posted:10/29/2010 11:34:07 PM  (Reply)

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godlypunk  posted:10/29/2010 12:18:57 PM  (Reply)
Just to add....I do NOT believe that we should do nothing regarding terrorism or drugs. But to say or think we will wipe it out is fiction. There has always been some form of it. But to call it a war implies there is a "win" in there somewhere, an end, and there isn't. It's like trying to eradicate bullies...you can't.
I absolutely agree with both your opinion on what it means to have an unwinnable war and that even though they are unwinnable something still has to be done.  I believe in the case of the War on Terror the phrase "the best defense is a good offense" does not apply.  Invading a foreign country that has drastically different views (politically and religiously) is never going to end well.  Plus I hate the idea of the USA "giving" democracy to people.  For democracy to truly work it has to be the people who rise up and take it.  Being given something like democracy is like being given a million dollars.  If you earned that cash your going to be smart with it, if you win it you blow it on a mansion and an Italian sports car only to find out you can't afford the property taxes and insurance then the bank takes it all back. I think the war on drugs should be treated more like a real war than the war on terror.  We should have predator drones dropping napalm on cocaine fields, not targetting unsuspecting Pakistani sunbathers. 
erysian   posted:10/31/2010 4:09:23 PM  (Reply)
The thing that always bothers me about these claims that scifi-esque tech is locked up somewhere (the extreme rate of progression in the military secretly etc) is this:wouldn't these people use it? How stupid can they be to go to all the trouble of getting/back engineering it and Never do Anything with it? Any corporation with supremely powerful alien tech or something would just claim to be the ones who developed it and start making more money than God.
Patrock   posted:11/1/2010 5:00:24 AM  (Reply)
i think they are using the tech, its just used in secret, they dont want there enemy's to know they have tech like that cause it will endanger there own saftey, and i do think that money dont have any Value in the S goverment, since they are The system. they can probly do any thing they like. money is probly used to buy stuff from public as a coverup. the public is happy and wont ask any questions if they just get paid.if you got a factory that makes plastic. and some costumer orders some plastic shapes, they make up a story that it will be used for airbaloons. you think ok airbaloons now thats fun lets make a price. you wont ask any more questions, your already happy your getting paid for making the shapes. but if you know it would be used for some new kind of weapon would you still make the shapes? thats where the money comes in the more the company sees of it. the more it is willing to do for the costumer. money is whats pulling the strings on the puppets.its all just one big show. they dont want us to know they excist and they will keep putting up a show. they wont let us know any thing unless they want us to.
godlypunk   posted:11/1/2010 9:55:20 AM  (Reply)

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erysian  posted:10/31/2010 4:09:23 PM  (Reply)
The thing that always bothers me about these claims that scifi-esque tech is locked up somewhere (the extreme rate of progression in the military secretly etc) is this:wouldn't these people use it? How stupid can they be to go to all the trouble of getting/back engineering it and Never do Anything with it? Any corporation with supremely powerful alien tech or something would just claim to be the ones who developed it and start making more money than God.
Where do you think the computer 'chip' came from....we are using it.


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