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Shadow of Man   posted:3/19/2010 2:27:55 AM  (Reply)
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tapuout4985   posted:3/19/2010 3:11:53 PM  (Reply)
Do you know any websites or books where I could find more information on the ik’eyn’eq?  I know you've mentioned being Native American on other threads.  What tribe?
Shadow of Man   posted:3/19/2010 7:52:31 PM  (Reply)

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tapuout4985  posted:3/19/2010 3:11:53 PM  (Reply)
Do you know any websites or books where I could find more information on the ik’eyn’eq?  I know you've mentioned being Native American on other threads.  What tribe?
In the Pacific Northwest Coast tribes, no one writes many books about our traditional ways. Shamanic and medicine paths are passed down from teacher to student (and mostly on the reservations), but as far as I know, no books. I am Chinook.
tje1976   posted:3/20/2010 1:18:45 AM  (Reply)
I like the idea that anyone can "cast out" a spirit.  Its based on the concept that it takes a tremedous amount of energy to express and manifest on this physical plane.  As humans, we're expressing to the point of manifesting a body to ride around in and experience the world.  A weaker spirit that is haunting or possesing has not evolved to the point of being able to express and manifest its own body.  So it tries to experience this world in any way it can.  It becomes frustrated and angry and begins to act out in various ways.  Much like a small child throwing a tempertantrum.  Because of the anger and hostility we asume its a demon or something evil.  But its more like that small child who needs direction and compassion, sometimes a little discipline.  I like this concept because it puts the power and ability in everybody's hands, instead of a small group of self-imposed authority figures.


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