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monica1968   posted:5/28/2011 11:05:35 AM  (Reply)
 This is more of a hypothetical question than a story, although i do have a valid reason for asking, although i will not go into it here.  My question is if it is possible to astrally project yourself at will, is it possible that there is technology to remove the soul of a person, and put that soul into a cloned body and through somesort of hypnosis get that person to perform tasks and such like, and then to the return the soul to original body . if this sort of thing has been discussed before then many appologies, but any thoughts anyone??
KevinKieneker   posted:5/31/2011 5:58:17 PM  (Reply)
i know Jesus is Real God The holy spirit the Father i have came out of my bosdy before it was so nuts i saw a lam like jesus would hold us all its way cool
erysian   posted:6/21/2011 8:16:23 PM  (Reply)
Fascinating thought, and I think it's come up in scifi and a few really out there conspiracy forum threads, but nothing solid (not that you could probably Get any 'solid' evidence of insubstantial tampering ). Basically, no idea if it's possible, but I guess anything is possible ultimately. Still, I think that would be quite frightening if it happened, so I hope it can't or at least won't.
spiritech0   posted:6/21/2011 10:49:33 PM  (Reply)
Disclaimer; I beleive that your spirit plus your body equals your soul.I've heard of this many times before. Mostly, it goes like this: 1) Subject is abducted by greys. 2) Greys always first attempt to place the victim into one of their biomechanical clone units / a grey's body. 3) When that doesn't work (more often than not that transition attempt fails), they rapid-grow a clone of your own body using your DNA/etc.... For purposes known only to them. Although I could pull a doozy of an idea outta my butt right now, the "Freaky Friday" syndrome occurs often. Proof: pick a loony bin.However, remember that our brains and bodily motions run on the bioelectricity generated by the heart (it doesn't need blood to start pumping) and of course our spirit/consciousness/intelligence inhabiting our body. Here's one bit of morbid visual proof. Ever see someone die on InfraRed camera? The "light goes out". Think on it. If your heart and brain work on electrical impulses, like a remote control toy, I say then why not be a ghost in a machine (meat or otherwise). Haunted objects, anyone? Help. I'm typing, and I can't shut up. 
wavygravy7   posted:6/22/2011 10:37:39 AM  (Reply)
No that was great Sprittech.I wish someone knew why they would want to put us in the body's of a gray alien.I had a dream that they did that to me and i remember looking at my alien hands and arms and then started passing out and not feeling well.I wish i could get some more info on this.I havnt read anywhere about this before.
wavygravy7   posted:6/22/2011 10:44:39 AM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:5/28/2011 11:05:35 AM  (Reply)
 This is more of a hypothetical question than a story, although i do have a valid reason for asking, although i will not go into it here.  My question is if it is possible to astrally project yourself at will, is it possible that there is technology to remove the soul of a person, and put that soul into a cloned body and through somesort of hypnosis get that person to perform tasks and such like, and then to the return the soul to original body . if this sort of thing has been discussed before then many appologies, but any thoughts anyone??
what blows my mnd is trying to think is the aliens of a spiritual nature?Or does there tech enable tranfers of souls and memories,and alow them to travel threw solid objects.
monica1968   posted:6/22/2011 11:16:53 AM  (Reply)
hmmm so i am not out of my mind lol...no seriously this is a question i asked because some memories are surfacing/resufacing and i am trying very hard to get a handle on it all...so for now i am going to accept its a real phenomenon...and go from there...probably wont like what i find though... 
monica1968   posted:6/22/2011 11:25:17 AM  (Reply)

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wavygravy7  posted:6/22/2011 10:37:39 AM  (Reply)
No that was great Sprittech.I wish someone knew why they would want to put us in the body's of a gray alien.I had a dream that they did that to me and i remember looking at my alien hands and arms and then started passing out and not feeling well.I wish i could get some more info on this.I havnt read anywhere about this before.
 are you sure it was just a dream? as for wondering why that is obcious surely because if they can get a soul to be compatible with their structure then they have created a being that is seperate from their collective....hmm now that does sound like a frightening thought....i would imagine that is at the core of the whole abduction purpose... to create a perfect hybrid....ok there are other resons too...but this is the most important..
monica1968   posted:6/22/2011 11:29:08 AM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:6/22/2011 11:16:53 AM  (Reply)
hmmm so i am not out of my mind lol...no seriously this is a question i asked because some memories are surfacing/resufacing and i am trying very hard to get a handle on it all...so for now i am going to accept its a real phenomenon...and go from there...probably wont like what i find though... 
and many thanks to all who have bothered to leave something...as they say many hands make light work...nothing truer when discussing things of this nature 
spider86   posted:6/23/2011 8:10:42 AM  (Reply)
This is a interesting video that talks about consciousness.
monica1968   posted:6/23/2011 9:06:58 AM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:6/22/2011 11:25:17 AM  (Reply)
 are you sure it was just a dream? as for wondering why that is obcious surely because if they can get a soul to be compatible with their structure then they have created a being that is seperate from their collective....hmm now that does sound like a frightening thought....i would imagine that is at the core of the whole abduction purpose... to create a perfect hybrid....ok there are other resons too...but this is the most important..
obvious 
spiritech0   posted:6/23/2011 10:16:54 AM  (Reply)
Scary Theory Book: "Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Souls" by Timothy BeckleyThis is all I could find right now. Get them brain juices flowing.
monica1968   posted:6/26/2011 4:44:11 PM  (Reply)
well yesterday i found a website www.geohanover.com and read the bit about the hybrids..[many of us by the sounds of it.] explains alot..especially about the soul...very interesting perspective on this phenomena....hmm...well worth a look if nothing else
stormmey   posted:6/26/2011 7:56:46 PM  (Reply)
oh monica , i wish i hadn't read this one....yet i saw your coping words were, i'll just accept this as.....  so you know, i think thats it, the first step, and then research and gain knowledge, ,,, living this...and my first thought at this question was an amazing two experiences i've had with angels unaware syndrom.  just people that get taken over at a moment in time to do somethng out of this world...twice i saw this...I knew it wasn't the people in the body, it  wasn't , no way...but what is leading theory here , makes total sense and freeks me out again! but the trembling has not returned for days , so better here  )
stormmey   posted:6/26/2011 8:08:37 PM  (Reply)
This whole thought evoked another memory, lol.. sorry, but this time i bent, no twisted a key , in a cars egnition i was shocked in my spirirt, the power was like those people lifting cars and large heavy impossible things at times . just makes me realize how powerful we all are, when that key moved so strongly it was from my spirit, it needed out of there my life depended on it and then look what happend ! luckly god gives more than one way to go,   right ,,,,   )
wavygravy7   posted:6/27/2011 9:41:30 AM  (Reply)

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monica1968  posted:5/28/2011 11:05:35 AM  (Reply)
 This is more of a hypothetical question than a story, although i do have a valid reason for asking, although i will not go into it here.  My question is if it is possible to astrally project yourself at will, is it possible that there is technology to remove the soul of a person, and put that soul into a cloned body and through somesort of hypnosis get that person to perform tasks and such like, and then to the return the soul to original body . if this sort of thing has been discussed before then many appologies, but any thoughts anyone??
I was listening to coast to coast when guest Whitley Strieber was on talking about his book The key.At one point he said the man that was in his hotel (who the book is mostly about) told him that human souls can be used to build intellegent machines.This is very interesting and scary at the same time.Who knows if this is true but I felt this was on topic.
jaguarsky   posted:6/27/2011 10:46:48 AM  (Reply)
My belief has always been, (well, at least since it was explained to me by a "teacher" at a very young age), that our souls are all part of a greater conciousness, a cosmic "mind" if you will. We are not truly separate from that but orbit it like the planets about the sun. The soul and conciousness are all part and parcel of the same thing. I was also taught the the soul/conciousness is in all living things.I do beleive that the soul can travel at will, if we allow that to happen, as in astral projection. Not an easy task and often a fearful one. I do not know if the soul can be "extracted". I suppose that in theory it could as those who have experienced near death often seem to find themselves separate. So, I guess if one was subjected to that type of event in a controlled envionment that the soul might be detached forcibly from the body. But that would beg the question as to how those who would do this would "capture" that nebulous entity.Sometimes I find that there are things that do not need to be contemplated, as the struggle to understand some situations has a more negative effect than the situation itself. In regards to abduction I do not try to figure out what the alien agenda is. Those beings, however connected they may be to us in a universal or genetic way, are vastly different in their thinking. We can never know the workings of an alien mind any more than we can understand the schemes of a sponge under the sea. It behooves us to simply accept that we are different and must exist together.When we are discomfited or harmed by our fellow living beings it does not matter what the impetus is. We have to accept that the creature has the ability to harm us and we must do what we must do to avoid/accept, and heal ourselves as best we can. To continue to ask why we get harmed is counter-productive if there is nothing you can do to change that.I know it is rather a simplistic and overly pragmatic view on the situation, but it has kept me somewhat sane over the years.
monica1968   posted:6/27/2011 3:15:22 PM  (Reply)

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wavygravy7  posted:6/27/2011 9:41:30 AM  (Reply)
I was listening to coast to coast when guest Whitley Strieber was on talking about his book The key.At one point he said the man that was in his hotel (who the book is mostly about) told him that human souls can be used to build intellegent machines.This is very interesting and scary at the same time.Who knows if this is true but I felt this was on topic.
hmmm whitley strieber i dont go much on, but he has a few gems of knowledge and this may be one of them....this is exactly what i was getting at..unfortunately this is one subject i had hoped was mere fantasy....but its not...deep down i suppose i knew it...thankyou wavygravy...question is where does one go from here ?
monica1968   posted:6/27/2011 3:39:16 PM  (Reply)

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jaguarsky  posted:6/27/2011 10:46:48 AM  (Reply)
My belief has always been, (well, at least since it was explained to me by a "teacher" at a very young age), that our souls are all part of a greater conciousness, a cosmic "mind" if you will. We are not truly separate from that but orbit it like the planets about the sun. The soul and conciousness are all part and parcel of the same thing. I was also taught the the soul/conciousness is in all living things.I do beleive that the soul can travel at will, if we allow that to happen, as in astral projection. Not an easy task and often a fearful one. I do not know if the soul can be "extracted". I suppose that in theory it could as those who have experienced near death often seem to find themselves separate. So, I guess if one was subjected to that type of event in a controlled envionment that the soul might be detached forcibly from the body. But that would beg the question as to how those who would do this would "capture" that nebulous entity.Sometimes I find that there are things that do not need to be contemplated, as the struggle to understand some situations has a more negative effect than the situation itself. In regards to abduction I do not try to figure out what the alien agenda is. Those beings, however connected they may be to us in a universal or genetic way, are vastly different in their thinking. We can never know the workings of an alien mind any more than we can understand the schemes of a sponge under the sea. It behooves us to simply accept that we are different and must exist together.When we are discomfited or harmed by our fellow living beings it does not matter what the impetus is. We have to accept that the creature has the ability to harm us and we must do what we must do to avoid/accept, and heal ourselves as best we can. To continue to ask why we get harmed is counter-productive if there is nothing you can do to change that.I know it is rather a simplistic and overly pragmatic view on the situation, but it has kept me somewhat sane over the years.
 very well put actually and i suppose beware, and pandora's box springs to mind, i know, and i understand that i probably will never really come to realise the why's or where's of any of it....i also know that i am powerless to stop it...postponing it is  relatively easy keeping it up is another thing...but they do say forearmed is forwarned....here is hoping that i can apply that phrase to my life...or to this bit anyway....and i have got past the omg stage to any of it...not alot surprises me anymore..but i do need to gather what i can knowledge wise...thanks for putting my feet on the ground though...i quite rely on your imput to do just that
spiritech0   posted:6/27/2011 11:11:20 PM  (Reply)
As Gary107 sayeth, we are what we do. Let's go and do.


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