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Hamm   posted:4/27/2010 10:02:18 PM  (Reply)
Hi. I came across an old interview with one Robert Sepehr on this site. He was way into Planet X and the Nancy Lieder stuff. I wonder what became of him and  is there still talk of PX around here?
spiritech0   posted:4/28/2010 12:38:51 PM  (Reply)
Hamm, Stephen Hawking hath commanded: Thou shalt not speak to aliens..!  But seriously, this is the first I've heard of Planet X. And also, the first I've read of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x#Discovery_of_further_trans-Neptunian_objectsNow, I don't think info via Wiki is reliable, just biased. However, it does pose some intriguing ideas concerning what gravity does affect Neptune, and how the UN educational system can gently lead humanity into the abyss. I mean, think about the old scientists saying to themselves, "We've had it wrong all our lives!"But, now that NASA has been scrapped by the reptoids, who's gonna look up to the sky from their personal tracking devices?
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 1:29:23 PM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:4/28/2010 12:38:51 PM  (Reply)
Hamm, Stephen Hawking hath commanded: Thou shalt not speak to aliens..!  But seriously, this is the first I've heard of Planet X. And also, the first I've read of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x#Discovery_of_further_trans-Neptunian_objectsNow, I don't think info via Wiki is reliable, just biased. However, it does pose some intriguing ideas concerning what gravity does affect Neptune, and how the UN educational system can gently lead humanity into the abyss. I mean, think about the old scientists saying to themselves, "We've had it wrong all our lives!"But, now that NASA has been scrapped by the reptoids, who's gonna look up to the sky from their personal tracking devices?
Well, unknown something affecting orbits is one of the pet stories of the PX proponents. Problem is, they have to ignore the fact that when updated figures were obtained by probes (Pioneer?) the discrepacies dissappear. They bray about old info and ignore the new. Over and over and over again.IF you really have never heard of Planet X, check out Zetatalk.com It will blow your mind.
opensky   posted:4/28/2010 2:07:18 PM  (Reply)
Planet X is Nibiru. 3600 year orbit around the sun and is due to appear here again in 2012. It is also where we came from or at least who's inhabitants made us as it is said. Stitchin has it all in his books and I believe he is correct. At least this is what I have read for the last 20 years or so.
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 3:05:19 PM  (Reply)

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opensky  posted:4/28/2010 2:07:18 PM  (Reply)
Planet X is Nibiru. 3600 year orbit around the sun and is due to appear here again in 2012. It is also where we came from or at least who's inhabitants made us as it is said. Stitchin has it all in his books and I believe he is correct. At least this is what I have read for the last 20 years or so.
Sitchen says it's due in 2012? I don't think so. Care to quote a source on that?
opensky   posted:4/28/2010 5:03:47 PM  (Reply)
Stitchins 12th planet is all about it.      There are Sites below with info and thousands more online. Either way we'll soon see!  http://www.marduk.org/http://churchofcriticalthinking.org/planetx.htmlhttp://www.surviving-nibiru.com/
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 5:19:45 PM  (Reply)

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opensky  posted:4/28/2010 5:03:47 PM  (Reply)
Stitchins 12th planet is all about it.      There are Sites below with info and thousands more online. Either way we'll soon see!  http://www.marduk.org/http://churchofcriticalthinking.org/planetx.htmlhttp://www.surviving-nibiru.com/
OK, but I asked you if you are specifically saying that Sitchen says it's due in 2012. I really don't care to wade through a bunch of PX sites trying to find that."Either way we'll soon see!"Well, that's what the PXers said in 2002. Why didn't they (you?) stand by that date? 
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 5:29:54 PM  (Reply)
 http://churchofcriticalthinking.org/planetx.html"The sumerianstold us..."So, are the Sumerians lying...?  Very typical PX garbage, proclaiming that some bogus interpretation of Sumerian texts(like Sitchen's) is "fact".  http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ Yawn.
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 5:41:28 PM  (Reply)
http://www.marduk.org/I haven't sat through the "debate" video, but it's all based on ignorance of astronomical scientific facts, like that any body passing through the inner Solar System every 3600 years would leave obvious effects on the orbits of the planets. No such purturbations are seen.Should I bother with the 3rd link? This PX crap is always the same, so I dunno... 
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 11:06:20 PM  (Reply)
I watched the "debate". One guy trying to sell all the Sitchen material and making a bunch of misstatements about things astronomical. He is clearly out of his depth. The other guy giving the bottom line that no elongated orbit like is usually proposed for PX, could be stable over many passages. End of story.
Hamm   posted:4/28/2010 11:08:33 PM  (Reply)
Well, all we ever seem to get about the PX thing is endlessly repeated rumors and erroneous "facts" which have been thoroughly debunked time and time again.Later, rinse, repeat.... ad infinitum...
spiritech0   posted:4/29/2010 12:22:08 PM  (Reply)
@HammThank you for the link to Zetatalk.com !  They seem to have their heads screwed on right I am going to read the info posted there, then come up with some ideas about Robert Sepehr to share with ParanormalNews.For now, I will entertain the idea that the inhabitants of PX went the way of the City of Enoch and are in the same location (behind a photon & darkmatter shield), just not readily visible with my favorite kaleidescope, the Hubble. Why do I think that way? I'm simply not informed enough to make a more detailed hypothesis as to PX's whereabouts. And so, mathematics of gravity notwithstanding (something I am also not familiar with) I reason that the planet is still in its orbit, just hidden.
Hamm   posted:4/29/2010 1:32:39 PM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:4/29/2010 12:22:08 PM  (Reply)
@HammThank you for the link to Zetatalk.com !  They seem to have their heads screwed on right I am going to read the info posted there, then come up with some ideas about Robert Sepehr to share with ParanormalNews.For now, I will entertain the idea that the inhabitants of PX went the way of the City of Enoch and are in the same location (behind a photon & darkmatter shield), just not readily visible with my favorite kaleidescope, the Hubble. Why do I think that way? I'm simply not informed enough to make a more detailed hypothesis as to PX's whereabouts. And so, mathematics of gravity notwithstanding (something I am also not familiar with) I reason that the planet is still in its orbit, just hidden.
Sorry? You think the authors of Zetatalk have their heads screwed on RIGHT??? Zetatalk is the biggest pile of steaming bullshit ever created on the internet. Bar none! It has been created by piling one lie or falsehood or factual misrepresentation on the previous one for some 15 years. Sepehr used to tout Nancy's drivel as accurate information,, but she blatantly lied about little items such as... ohh... PX being imaged at her coordinates, for example. It simple didn't happen. Zetatalk is a well-crafted attempt at sucking in the paranoid and uneducated.There is an old interview from 2002 with Sepehr on this site somewhere. That;s how I ended up here.
spiritech0   posted:4/29/2010 2:30:48 PM  (Reply)
But... I just stated that I don't know a thing about PX other than what's in the 'Net. I'm not kidding in my previous expressions. I think that way. It's simply that I like to consider info from cover(t-ops) to cover(-ups) per se.  (You like that? I think that's funny, but true).For example, I don't have the resources to determine that when you typed "IF you really have never heard of Planet X, check out Zetatalk.com It will blow your mind.", you were truly asking me to steer clear of the website (and it's contents) and so not consider a pixel of info there.That, and I do know that not one thing I've typed here is in the definition (classic or otherwise) of "paranoia".  Don't give up, Hamm, man. We're all here (at least in this site, I believe) to collect data and find the truth.  
Hamm   posted:4/29/2010 8:32:29 PM  (Reply)

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spiritech0  posted:4/29/2010 2:30:48 PM  (Reply)
But... I just stated that I don't know a thing about PX other than what's in the 'Net. I'm not kidding in my previous expressions. I think that way. It's simply that I like to consider info from cover(t-ops) to cover(-ups) per se.  (You like that? I think that's funny, but true).For example, I don't have the resources to determine that when you typed "IF you really have never heard of Planet X, check out Zetatalk.com It will blow your mind.", you were truly asking me to steer clear of the website (and it's contents) and so not consider a pixel of info there.That, and I do know that not one thing I've typed here is in the definition (classic or otherwise) of "paranoia".  Don't give up, Hamm, man. We're all here (at least in this site, I believe) to collect data and find the truth.  
I wasn't telling you to steer clear of Zetatalk. Consider away, as you wish. I was just shocked that you came away from a first impression with a poitive comment. Do you know that Zetatalk claims that the Sun has been halted in orbit for the last 7 years and has been tilted back and forth to simulate the proper seasons by "benign aliens"?As I said, it will blow your mind to see what is claimed there. Go right ahead and check it out. Maybe you will think it's valid information. You won't be the first.
tapuout4985   posted:4/30/2010 12:16:26 AM  (Reply)
Honestly, I think the Zetatalk folk are the kinda people that are so crazy, it tarnishes all the rest of us.  Some of the crazy sh*t they say is just jaw dropping in its stupidity.  I think they (or she, or whatever) have taken to the strategy that if they just spit out enough crap, some of it will come true and it will make them look like some sort of prophet or ambassador.  The most interesting thing about the Zetatalk propaganda is the claim that there would be closed borders between states in the future.  The whole ordeal with Arizona has almost accomplished that, but most of their claims are just rediculous.  Either way, average joe hears the Zetatalk shpeel and figures not only are they crazy, but anyone who believes anything other than grade school science must be crazy too.
Hamm   posted:4/30/2010 11:16:50 AM  (Reply)
Yeah. I do consider Zetatalk to be part of an orgnized plan on some level. It's just too well-crafted and, well, masterfull in its monipulation of facts. Oh... before I said they say the Sun is halted. That was a misstatement. It's the Earth they say is halted in orbit. It's astounding that anyone could believe crap like that, but apparently they do!
spiritech0   posted:4/30/2010 12:50:06 PM  (Reply)
Have I got a doozy for ya to read... if you dare. The Book of Mormon: the book of Helaman, Chapter 12, especially verses 14 & 15.  Just thought it interesting, since I can only relay what I know about.  But I still like the part in the christian bible where it states that God created this world and worlds without end.  Another proof of life on other planets? You decide.I read one Zetatalk article after another yesterday. Now I understand why you're p.o'd at them, because so am I. The english language isn't so technical that the average literate can't find the inconsistencies in Zetatalk's claims.  Wow, it's bad.  I took a Motrin afterwards. Yuck, its bad.
Chriswin2010   posted:4/30/2010 1:41:21 PM  (Reply)
I really do not care if there is a planet X, the only thing I do care about is that the government is STILL lying about searching for life on other planets, they claim that the only thing they are looking for is microbes and MAYBE a small animal, they do not claim that they are hoping to find a human size or larger animal, when the truth is, they already know that there is life fucking SWARMING the solar system, what the fuck?!?!? Why would they continue to lie when they have physical evidence of aadvance civilizations on nearby planets, and besides that, the new spacecraft the government just got is COMPLETELY capable of making a trip to the fucking moon in 9 hours, I already did the math for that lol.... So if they only have to spend 9 hours going to the moon why wouldn't they? That is just like taking a vacation 400 miles away.... I think it is just because brainless people are so dumb that they will believe that the only organism in the entire univers other than humans and organisms on earth are only microbes...
Hamm   posted:4/30/2010 2:18:04 PM  (Reply)
Those are quite some heavy conclusions you're jumping to, Chris. Care to show your math on that claim of reaching the Moon in 9 hours?I don't know what you've been reading, but life swarming in this Solar System? Where do you get that?


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